This is a long shot but I thought if anybody would know they'd be on here. I probably should've started this on the ef forums but I'm more concerned if it would translate to my ek.

I know the civic station wagons back in the late 80's had all wheel drive (or 4wd...I forget which). I was wondering if the awd components could switch over to the old ef civic hatch or my civic ek coupe. I haven't seen it done before so I'm guessing it's either impossible or there is some kind of limitation with the 4wd system that would keep it from being fun to drive, but if anybody has a link to someone that has done it or has any input on why it would/wouldn't work I'd appreciate it.

 

PS I forgot to mention I did find an AWD thread here but it was using various CRV bits or making a custom drive shaft and rear end. I was hoping I could just buy a late 80's civic wagon for a couple of hundred bucks and swap out a few parts. I imagine the older civic wagons still used D series motors right?

https://honda-tech.com/forums/welding-fabrication-53/serious-awd-conversion-thoughts-1143469/

 

not without doing a custom drive shaft and rear housing and redoing the whole rear end. it was done that way because i imagine it was the only or best way to do it.

how exactly did you plan on driving the entire back end with no driveshaft or rear end work? since a normal civic isn't built for either.

it is possible but not cheap unless you can do alot of it yourself.

 

with the right amount of money and the right knowledge anything is possible.

 

There were AWD EG Ferios in Japan: RTX

Also the RTSi model

fm

 

Thanks fungus mungus! I figure swapping over parts from a comparable model would be easier than trying to piece something together from several different cars. Still might be a pipe dream with the limited budget I'm willing to put down on this but at least I've got a starting place.

 

There's someone in the Bay Area selling a real RTSi legally registered in California for 10K. If I didn't have a wife, I'd be all over it.

fm

 

Lol, always the way it goes. I took some crap for having a short shifter delivered to the house. Guess I have to send parts to the office from here on out.

 

haha really?
yell at her for having craft stuff delivered to the house way down the road.

just wait till you start ordering big parts. that'll be a fun day.

 

LOL...I just took delivery of a JDM ITR header...at the office.

fm

 

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double post ***** =oO j/k

 

I remember reading up on this a little while back. The D-series 4WD components from the wagon you are referring to are crap. Apparently they are pretty weak and can't hold much power, which makes engine-building an impossibility. And I think something like 10-20% of the power goes to the rear, and the other 80-90% is at the front.

The CR-V system for B-series motors is much better.

 

Not an EG, but here is an AWD Turbo Civic for sale: http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/400737.aspx

 

either way, it would still need some custom fabricated parts which are going to be expensive.........and if they break.....it will be expensive again.

 

Yes, there were AWD 3G Integras, 5G Civic sedans and 6G Civic sedans.

NONE of them were really performance oriented. All of them came with what was damn close to a FWD drivetrain too. 70/30 really isn't anything awe inspiring.

The problem I see with trying to convert a '92-'00 Civic or '94-'01 Integra to AWD is that there really isn't any Honda or Acura drivetrain that is good enough and would be able to fit without a load of customization.

If you really want to make a performance oriented AWD '92-'00 Civic or '94-'01 Integra my suggestion is to get really good at figuring stuff out, get a nice big budget, get lots of tools together and figure out how to make some Subaru parts fit on your car. One of the original AWD chassis might save a little time in customization, but getting it here would just cost more cash and time. Then all you'd really be getting is a "better" chassis, which you would still need to put a lot of work into and otherwise cut up.

I would imagine you'd be pretty well off using first gen Impreza parts (some older Subaru parts might be cheaper, but harder to find in good condition) and putting them in the Civic. But then you'd have to get everything to match up to your D/B-series engine and mount the drivetrain in your car. At this point you're probably wondering, "Why not just buy the Impreza straight up?" And that would be a very good point.

And yes... Yes, "anything could be done with enough time, money, energy and knowledge", but that might as well get posted in damn near any thread on here. It's a good way to up your post count but doesn't really teach anyone anything or add anything to the thread.

 

With all due respect, While I agree that the JDM AWD Civics weren't performance cars, the OP never mentioned anything about building a performance car. He just asked if it was possible to make an AWD Civic. Not if it's possible to build a Civic STi.

fm

 

lol @ civic STi

Anyways, it would be a lot less hastle trying to go RWD than AWD for the civic though (at least in ease of parts accessibility) because you can swap stuff with the S2000, and i think the guy who did RWD to his hatch had s13 diff/subframe and everything (correct me if im wrong). But either way, you will have lots of cutting/custom work. Plus massive firewall raping to fit the gear box in lol

And yes, if you want it that much its possible for AWD.

 

one kid at my h.s. was always talking about building one!

 

I understand this.

Since he specifies he wants it as a certain model year that here in the states never came with AWD (even though earlier models came with it), then I have to imagine the newer car has something about it that he prefers over the older car.

Probably something big since, well, otherwise he'd just go for the car that is readily available.

Being Honda-Tech, this means he probably wants something showy of some sort (whether it's truly visual, or bragging rights, or wanting to look/be impressive, etc.) or finds some redeeming quality about the 6G (interior, exterior..?). It's not like the 4Gs are non-functional vehicles or anything. There isn't a lot about the fourth gen that is lacking in comparison with the 6G when you're talking about just wanting a car to drive. I find it difficult to believe he is just that enthusiastic about the '96-'00 coupe, but dislikes the drivetrain.

In fact:
This, to me, sounds like the OP wants a car that he sees as more fun to drive. This might include going AWD.

The OP might very well change his mind when he sees how incredibly difficult it is to swap a 5/6G Civic in the US to AWD. Plus it's not going to make it anymore fun to drive at all.

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/my-95-civic-hatch-project-3006609/

 

thread from the dead.. theres a guy at dso that just finished an awd Civ using CRV parts