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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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HiĄ

First of all greetings to all and sorry for my english, i'm very glad for your enthusiasm in this honda world.

My actual configuration is, Injen CAI, Skunk2 Tuner ST2 Cams, Springs, Camgear and Retainers, Toda 4-2-1 Header, Ramdom Tech Cat, Buddy Club Pro-Spec Catback, HKS 60mm Muffler and P28 whit Hondata S300. (The car doesn't run very well, any decent tuner here)

I'm thinking in goes stroke to 1800 but i don't know what to do,

What would be the better option, buy a stroker kit whit crankshaft or buy a specifict pistons and rods.
Brand and size of TB and IM, what would be the best comp ratio for this setup.
Would need a better fuel rail, pump and FPR or what size of injectors.

I know that are many questions but i don't know where to start.

Please give me some advise, all will be well recived. I don't think in a ...whp goal I only want that car runs the better as posible.


Many thanks anyway. Regards. Ciaoo,
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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Nobody??ż
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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its only been an hour bud.

read my thread here.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/gsr-build-questions-about-clearances-power-cams-2794034/

and this here
he asked same question not too long ago.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/gsr-motor-build-2839591/


heres the CR calculator for you to play with
http://www.zealautowerks.com/bseries.html

its a general question so you probably dont know what you looking for
the above links will help you get a better idea.

i ve spent about 4 months of mucho reading every day after work and asking questions here that i could not find answers to and they all in that thread(btw big thanks for red sir and others) before i started buying parts, and even after that there was still 1000s of questions i had.


btw i could not think in a WHP goal either before i got into my build.

i thought i just buy all the random parts and see how much power i get.

but its much easier to set a power goal and see what you need to get there. and if you can afford it LOLZ @ myself.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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Default Re: b16a2 Need advise please

Originally Posted by delectric
HiĄ

First of all greetings to all and sorry for my english, i'm very glad for your enthusiasm in this honda world.

My actual configuration is, Injen CAI, Skunk2 Tuner ST2 Cams, Springs, Camgear and Retainers, Toda 4-2-1 Header, Ramdom Tech Cat, Buddy Club Pro-Spec Catback, HKS 60mm Muffler and P28 whit Hondata S300. (The car doesn't run very well, any decent tuner here)

I'm thinking in goes stroke to 1800 but i don't know what to do,

What would be the better option, buy a stroker kit whit crankshaft or buy a specifict pistons and rods.
Brand and size of TB and IM, what would be the best comp ratio for this setup.
Would need a better fuel rail, pump and FPR or what size of injectors.

I know that are many questions but i don't know where to start.

Please give me some advise, all will be well recived. I don't think in a ...whp goal I only want that car runs the better as posible.


Many thanks anyway. Regards. Ciaoo,
If you could datalog the car running as your driving around and do some datalogs of wot pulls and send them to me i can get your car running better. I will also need you to send me your current tune your running on.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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the cheaper would be to buy a gsr LS or b20 block.
and build it using that extra cash you saved instead of buying a stroker kit.

unless you after NFSU style points and want to tell people you have a 1.8L B16 motor.
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Default Re: b16a2 Need advise please

Ok so, there aren't many thinks to do with my stock block?
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Default Re: b16a2 Need advise please

Originally Posted by 2k.civic.si
If you could datalog the car running as your driving around and do some datalogs of wot pulls and send them to me i can get your car running better. I will also need you to send me your current tune your running on.
I have a Innovate Wideband and always try to tune well my AFR but i don't have any reference about how to tune ingnition without a loaded dyno?

I know that this configuration isn't effective without more CR and bigger TB and IM but try to goes better little by little, while trying to learn more about this.

The worts thing that is doing know is about 5800-7500 rpms, the cars get very rich and lose power then about 7500 start to goes better into redline and get lean, i have tune a bit fuel maps but although AFR run constantly the effect is the same, little power between vtec engage to 7.5k and going better until redline.

Many thanks to all, all i could learn would be a big help for me. Ciao.
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