got a b16a2 in a 99 si and finally have money bout 10k and was needing some help..... what a typical ricer does turbo on stock motor.... not me...
i would like to get everybodys input on this pros and cons and how much
1) turbo
2)jackson racing supercharger
3)all b16a2
4)k20 swap

all four id like to try but i have money for only one please help me my friends are idiots..... and i live in a little poo dunk town in the middle of kansas so anything would be better than these idiots

 

well it depends what this car will be used for all those can be achieved for under 10k. what are your power goals?

 

I have to agree with 92shade, we need to know ur intentions with the car to give better opinions.

 

if your willing to spend 10000 you should def get a kswap and turbo it itll def be worth it

 

H2B Turbo boyee!

 

Well its got to be my daily driver but at the same time I wanna roll up to Richy rich in his vette or Billy badass in is stang and smoke the **** out of both of them with out even blinking an eye ...... you know what I mean the people that talk **** on Honda's

 

i say you do a supercharged k20 type r keep the body stock si are extremely clean to begin with mayb jus lower it sleeper exhaust with electric cut out and just roll up on people and blow the doors off them jus my opinion something i want to do

 

Def do a K20 or k24-k20 head

 

If i had $10k, i'd swap out the head. Throw on a t3/t4 turbo with a full internal build, cams etc w/tune $5k. Do some extensive suspension work like better rotors/pads and sticky tires $1k. Or do a 5lug conversion! The rest of the left over money i'd buy a decent DD and garage your EM1. Even though you live in Kansas, i assume from your info. There are just too many thieves out there.

 

i agree with this guy.. if you are gonna do a kswap and you are expecting to blow vetts then dont be disapointed.. mustangs all day but you can do that with a b series motor.. you have a em1 not that much havier than a hatch but it makes a diffrence(unless your gonna rip your interior apart). If you plan on doing a k20 with boost then its not really a good DD that motor will be gone from all the stress in like 2 years.. keep a k20 n/a save up some more money and get it built.. then you can boost with out a problem, remember there is a big diffrence in the k series motors just like b series, some are ment to be kept n/a like the b18cr and the k20a

 

This is what I would do:

1. Sell the B16A2 to a local ricer (but keep the tranny)
2. Get an F22/23
3. Buy an F2B kit from Bisimoto
4. Piece together a turbo set up


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you can beat older mustangs in a stock d series turbo setup easily. just build a b and turbo it... its cheaper to build then a K. you blow the K up you up shyts creek for another $3-5k motor. they do withstand more hp in stock form~400hp vs ~300hp on a b series stock. then you can takle the rest of the 10g's to buy suspension goodies like traction bar/radials/brakes etc...just keep it simple and clean

 

But why would he do that? It would make too much sense to have the F22's torque and low compression stock with the B16 trans. It wouldn't be JDM enough.

 

 

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ask this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR_7T...eature=channel

 

i would go k20 supercharged or lsvtec/gsr turbo just make sure its built and tuned right. i recommend revline in kansas city they do great work.

 

build the b16 for turbo.

once you go boost, you never go back.

why would you swap to a K20? super chargers are a waste on 4 cylinders

 

Fully built JRSC. LHT Intercooled, sleeved GSR block, GSR intake cam, ITR exhaust cam, Hondata base map, Comptech ICEbox, Kamikaze 4-1 header, K-Teller 2.5" piping, Vibrant 2.5" Stealth Muffler. Run 12psi or more. You'd probably still be able to pocket cash for your suspension. In my opinion, a Jackson Racing supercharger is best on 4 cylinders, you have a way more even power curve than a turbo, meaning power when you want and not waiting for it to spool. And with the above combo, you'd be making HP numbers comparable to a turbo. The problem with superchargers are people just slap them on and expect great things, you have to tune tune tune with appropriate intake and exhaust modifications.

 

Don't forget 750cc injectors and high-flow fuel pump. Your car won't only be fast as **** but very reliable. Hell if you have enough swap out that tranny for an ITR one. I'd love to see ANY car race a Civic tuned as I stated above, the problem is you don't see many supercharger owners making the best out of them as you see turbo owners making the best out of turbos.

 

My $.02

keep the b16

rods/pistons/sleeved
headwork (valves,springs,retainers,cam)
clean quite exhaust w/ electric cutout
LSD in your tranny or a ITR Tranny
billet turbo w/ all supporting mods

you would still be prolly under 10k and making 500+ whp

 

HE WANTS TO KEEP IT AS A DAILY.
i think you should just get a full type R swap
do the basics, like exhaust,headers,intake,cam gears,
Edelbrock or Skunk2 intake manifold, MSD, fuel rail etc etc.
then put the rest of your money on makin the car complete.
like paint, rims, tires, lips, etc etc. whatever your taste is.
these people are telling you to build a car like crazy, if your drivin
it with those mods as a daily your car aint really gonna last unless
you maintain it real good. Just sounds like you want it fast and dependable. :/

 

i agree witht his guy, exept for changing the manifold. OP one thing you need to knoe is that every brand took the original design from the ITR manifold so changing it dosnt make a diffrence

 

i would agree too, but he wants to be able to beat a vette in a race, and this will not do that.

 

If he followed the steps I listed above he would have an extremely fast and very reliable vehicle. JRSC > turbo when it comes to reliability, and especially if the block is sleeved, the SC is intercooled and the whole motor is tuned on hondata.