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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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I just replaced my stock shocks with koni yellows. Before the stock shocks had skunk2 springs and I used the same springs. I also used extended top hats for extra shock travel. But after the install the tires, mostly the passenger side is getting sliced by this metal sticking out running along the middle of the wheel well. Is it just the skunk2 springs are too low or maybe did I do something wrong?

And also it still sounds like a sledgehammer is banging my dashboard when i hit a bump.

I just dont understand why its super slammed like that. Is it possible that maybe the springs are not good anymore?

I have a 94 integra with skunk2 springs on koni yellow shocks on 16" GT3s with 205-45-16 tires

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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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cars to low, for obvious reasons, acura never had the intention of the integra being that low.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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duh...I dont want it that low! i look on google for other integras with skunk2 springs and they are not slammed to the point the whole tire is tucked in like mine. Something is wrong I think.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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On another forum, they said that it could be from maybe the springs in the front right now are supposed to be in the rear and vise versa. Does this issue sound like the spring placement is the cause?
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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if it's only coming from one side, then my suggestion is to check your rear trailing arm bushing.

and when you say springs, lowering springs, or coil over sleeves?
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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have u had your car aligned? or have camber kits on it? cuz my car is incredible low and i have to get it aligned to have it not tear my tires up like that. plus if u just got lowering springs and not adjustable one it sags down real low like that depending on ur tire size
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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yea i have skunk2 lowering springs. No i havnt gotten it aligned but my question is if my springs cud have been placed wrong on the car. (front needs to be switched with back?)
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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Its the extended tophats causing more of a drop. You can just bend that metal tab in the middle of the fender.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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make sure you have the spring on the right perch too.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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CNt be the top hats they dont cause the car to drop more. And the springs I think are in the right place because The wider coils are in the rear and the front are smaller. I think its supposed to be like that.?
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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I don't mean the size of the spring, I'm talking about the perch it goes on. On the body of the shock you should notice a couple of different spaces for the c clip to go. I'm not sure which one you should be using, but I remember a thread on T-I a while back where a guy had the spring on the wrong one.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Should the perch be facing down or up like a cup? Its faceing down right now.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cbaber
Its the extended tophats causing more of a drop. You can just bend that metal tab in the middle of the fender.
you can't just "bend" the tabs.
trust me, its not that simple....

and tophats don't cause it to drop more, tophats are to extend travel when the shock is compressed, unless he's hitting bumps every 10 seconds, it wouldn't be the cause of his issue...
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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On the back the cup should have the open(Big) end upwards so that the spring sits in it. On the front the cup goes open (big) end downwards so that the spring does down over it.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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That's how my setup is right now. I don't get wats wrong then. Shud I try bending the tab then?
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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That's how my setup is right now. I don't get wats wrong then. Shud I try bending the tab then?
Yes, use a large hammer and bang it flat.

Also, if you used the lower circlip lcoation on the Koni shocks, you'll end up with additional lowering, which could be causing the issue.

From the description of the banging sound, you could be hitting the UCAs into the shock tower, which can happen with extended upper shock mounts, as they allow additional compression travel. Verify that the correct bumpstop is being used, and that the bumpstop fully compresses before the UCA makes contact (you'll need to assemble the suspension without the spring to test this).
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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How do I raise the circlip on the koni shock?
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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How do I raise the circlip on the koni shock?
Remove wheel.
Remove shock assembly from car.
Remove spring and perch from shock.
Remove circlip (use gentle force and a screwdriver)
Re-install circlip in desired location (should be 2 grooves on front shocks, use the upper groove for "stock height". 3 grooves in back, use middle groove for "stock height").
Re-install perch and spring on shock.
Re-install assembly onto car.
Re-install wheel.
Repeat for other corners.
Get car aligned at new height (toe changes with height change).
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Remove wheel.
Remove shock assembly from car.
Remove spring and perch from shock.
Remove circlip (use gentle force and a screwdriver)
Re-install circlip in desired location (should be 2 grooves on front shocks, use the upper groove for "stock height". 3 grooves in back, use middle groove for "stock height").
Re-install perch and spring on shock.
Re-install assembly onto car.
Re-install wheel.
Repeat for other corners.
Get car aligned at new height (toe changes with height change).
LOL i can't believe you took the time to type all that
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Tires getting sliced by inner wheel well after installing konis

well, it's correct and it's probably the OP's problem. Nothing else could make the tires hit the shock tower on the Konis but not on the original shocks.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Yea it definitley is the problem..... so the perch circlip goes up to raise the car and the circlip goes down to lower the car correct? Right now its probably on the lowest perch. How much does the car lower or raise between each circlip ajdustment?
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
LOL i can't believe you took the time to type all that
I'm a programmer. How long do you think it took to type?

(Honestly, less than a minute. I wrote 7 pages of code in the last 10 minutes, but IntelliSense makes that easy...)

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How much does the car lower or raise between each circlip ajdustment?
Between 1" and 1.5" of ride height on an Integra. PatrickGSR94 can probably give a better answer here. Never touched my circlips, I have GC sleeves.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Tires getting sliced by inner wheel well after installing konis

still think op should at least check his RTA bushing to.
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
I'm a programmer. How long do you think it took to type?

(Honestly, less than a minute. I wrote 7 pages of code in the last 10 minutes, but IntelliSense makes that easy...)



Between 1" and 1.5" of ride height on an Integra. PatrickGSR94 can probably give a better answer here. Never touched my circlips, I have GC sleeves.
true true, just made me laugh, it was a complete instruction manual on the problem.
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Tires getting sliced by inner wheel well after installing konis

I have not gotten a chance to check if the circlip is the issue but what if I find that the circlip is in the normal position? What else could be the problem?
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