my build:
eagle sleeved ls block 81.5mm
aries pistons 9:1
undecided with rods brian crower pro series Bc625+ or some eagles? any opinions from ht will help..
moroso pan

gsr head ..mild port
supertech springs , crower retainers , supertech valves
ferrea valve guides...
id 1000
sc6265 t4 turbo
turbo element topmount manifold
walbro 255 intank, bosch 044 in line -8an feed
hondata s300
gsr trans w/lsd
will it make it or do i need to rethink it? any help is appreciated

 

Go with manely turbo tuff rods....what size exhaust?

 

3" inch exhaust
u think the turbo tuff are better ...than the bc pro series

 

the sc6265 is a great turbo but its pushing it to try and hit 800whp with it. i would definately go sc6765. the crower rods is the better choice. who's tunning the car?

 

manley turbo rods ftw. that or some pauters

 

thinking of going to miller and the nrg team few of my friends went to miller and came home happy am in ny.. u have any suggestions

 

I dunno about the BC rods, I would probably do the manley turbo tuff ones first, I like the billet crower rods my self, pauters are strong but are really heavy. And I agree with the post above, your pushing it with that turbo, the 67 would be a much better choice. Who is doing all the head work? And if your in NY take advantage of it and go to miller, you are lucky to have someone like that to go to.

 

ok manley was another option and thats 3 times yall mentioned it so there goin in by friday..
am goin to look into the 67... could i stay wit a t4 or step down to t3
i bought the head bear wraped fresh from the machine shop not to shore.. but the guy is a real straight up guy..

 

not to shore who did the work that is....

 

aluminum rods should be given some thought. id go with complete ferrea valvetrain and ditch the superjunk stuff, 4" exhaust, and a good ported head. Power is made in the head. I wouldn't try to push 800hp from a 62mm turbo, go 67 in T4.

I don't think you relize what 800hp is, unless your just looking to make 800, say you have 800, and never go to the track and go fast.

 

i understand wat 800 is am lookin to get back to the track alot wit this new build...
old build was good but its been 2yrs since i sold that setup strong motor ran mid 10's
gotta get back out with this one

 

every1 is looking to build a high hp car ...800 was the first thing that came to my head ..
mastering even close to 800hp is my next goal
last motor made around 630'shp

 

go to synapse motorsports for the tuning

 

havent heard of them but will do some research... thanks

 

get pauters.
get ferrrea valves instead of st.
some headworks.

your 1000cc will fall short. this is on e85 i pressume.

 

Go 84mm at minimum. The difference between bore size will be 5% power (that's 30-50hp at 800hp). 81.5mm vs 84mm is a huge difference in keeping detonation away and overall engine efficiency. It's a no brainer.

You need A LOT larger injectors. 1600cc would be the minimum. You really want 2000cc injectors. As for a turbo, you need something that will flow 80-90lb/min. Look into BorgWarners.

The difference between 600hp and 800hp is night and day. It's like the difference between low 10's and mid 9's. It's WORLDS apart.

 

yeah GMB makes a really nice rod. they supposedly stretch over time but i dont think ive seen a stretched on before. Ive seen broken ones but thats on a buddy of mines top fuel car making a few thousand hp LOL

 

1600cc injectors or bigger on that corn syruppp!!!

 

The OP never said anything about E85. He won't hit 800whp on 1600cc injectors on E85 unless he adds 4 more(which would be overkill). 1600cc injectors barely will get him 800whp on gasoline.

 

i used r&r connecting rods.good price,great customer service and good turnaround time.

 

Everyone in here is ranting about 1600cc Injectors, its a pretty widely known fact that ID1000's at 100psi base flow 1500cc.

Nobody mentioned E85....

Lol no need for an AL Rod the Manleys or the BC's will be just fine, Matt Keller went 170mph with the BC's I am sure they will be fine for your app.

All Ferrea all day, never ever would I consider another company for my valvetrain.

Moroso Pans are nice, get the steel pan I have seen alot of the AL pans leak.

 

I agree with nowtype, why are you going with 81.5 on a sleeved motor? Please learn from my mistake and go to at least 83. I started at 81.5 because that's what the shop recommended to me and it was stupid, I went to 83 and upped my compression to 9.4:1. That's what I should have done from the beginning.

 

1. The 81.5mm bore might limit you. Its nice to have the extra 'meat' incase something goes wrong, but i would overbore a little more...83mm or so

2. The ID1000s seem a little small at first glance but in light of the comment above by 96 GSR-T, they should flow enough. By my rough calculation, you would need about 1200cc's/inj to make 800whp on gasoline. If the ones you have can do more than that, you're in the clear.

3. The turbo seems to be a little on the small side IMO. I'm not sure what its truly capable of, but i would look at something larger. Maybe i'm a bit biased but i would look into the Borg Warner units...an S372 would get the job done

4. The 3" exhaust to me seems a limitation yet again. I know it's probably fine, but your goal is not something in which efficiency can be overlooked. On a 300whp setup where another pound of boost will compensate, i would overlook small things like this, but when trying to make that kind of power, you have to pick up efficiency whenever possible.

 

you should definately contact Miller @ NRGtech and talk to him about the build. since he will be tuning it you should keep him in close contact with you and together ya'll will put the proper setup together to reach your goals. (631)243-6674

 

i am def going to look into getting the block re-sleeved to 84mm ..the block was sleeved by golden eagle a year ago 81.5 mm jus to keep a block around. never used until this pass jan decided to put something together.. i will call and see how much it would cost to re-sleeve to 84mm ..
and i am going to give miller a call this week about the build..
o ya the car will run on e85 .. and i got the manley turbo tuffs..
i used supertech valves on 600+ y not up to 800?
all the info is much appreciated guys..thank you