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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:59 AM
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Basically my d16y8 is throwing white smoke when i rev pass 4k rpm thru 7k. Just straight up white smoke even after i warm up the car.

Oil is burning as well too.

Could it be my head gasket? or Piston Rings?
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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piston rings...but easy fix
blue smoke would be your headgasket (coolant)
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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Default Re: White Smoke passed 4k Rpm

Originally Posted by rick_rabies
piston rings...but easy fix
blue smoke would be your headgasket (coolant)

Hmm.. thanks
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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Default Re: White Smoke passed 4k Rpm

Originally Posted by rick_rabies
piston rings...but easy fix
blue smoke would be your headgasket (coolant)
I think you got it backwards......

When coolent burns, that is white smoke

when oil burns, it is blue
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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Default Re: White Smoke passed 4k Rpm

Soo if its white then its my head gasket????
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lilpaintballer02
Soo if its white then its my head gasket????
yes,
blue smoke is oil
white could be coolant
pull out you spark plugs and see if any of them are steam cleaned
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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yeah. i thought so
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ChRiS_p123
yes,
blue smoke is oil
white could be coolant
pull out you spark plugs and see if any of them are steam cleaned
what would they look like?
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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Better the head gasket than the piston rings!

Set a video camera by your exhaust and rev your engine so the smoke comes out, that way you can see the exact color of the smoke.

Do a compression test and the results can diagnose if it's a blown head gasket or not. If the compression is higher on one end then progressively gets lower towards the other end of the engine then that's a symptom of a blown head gasket...FOR EXAMPLE:

If your compression results are 200 120 80 40 or vise versa.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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I have some oil seepage from the dizzy side of the block/head...pretty sure the HG is goin. Im so scared to do it tho, on my EF, a couple of the head bolt holes got stripped. Im affraid of that happening again especially since the previous owner of my EG said he had just done the head gasket himself.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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alright thanks guys
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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i had the same problem with an engine in one of my civics. it had weak piston rings and couldnt rev it past 4,000 without smelling bad oil burnin. the engine was mistreated by the previous owner and was over 300,000miles as well.

The way you can tell if your head gasket is blown is: excessive oil consumption. drain the oil and see if it is "muddy" or clearly has coolant in it. if the oil is ok, then your head gasket is fine.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bender C/F
i had the same problem with an engine in one of my civics. it had weak piston rings and couldnt rev it past 4,000 without smelling bad oil burnin. the engine was mistreated by the previous owner and was over 300,000miles as well.

The way you can tell if your head gasket is blown is: excessive oil consumption. drain the oil and see if it is "muddy" or clearly has coolant in it. if the oil is ok, then your head gasket is fine.
I seem to be eating oil, but the oil is darker than normal as opposed to milky.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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if i was you i would change the oil real good.
then spray the engine with degreaser cleaner stuff and then spray it off after you let it sit. then go drive it then check 100% where its coming from and what it is
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
if i was you i would change the oil real good.
then spray the engine with degreaser cleaner stuff and then spray it off after you let it sit. then go drive it then check 100% where its coming from and what it is
its coming from the passenger side front of the head/block....where the HG is. I have some seepage, not enough to drip onto the floor while im parked over night, but im sure thats my problem.

I've just been so scared to work on a HG after i stripped the block on my EF by over tightening
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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dont be scared just do things right and youl be fine. go slowly
is it oil seeping? becuase that could be coming from the dizzy rubr ring gaskt
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
dont be scared just do things right and youl be fine. go slowly
is it oil seeping? becuase that could be coming from the dizzy rubr ring gaskt
its dry above where the head/block meet. I've looked under the dizzy and its not coming from there.

I know its unlikely that the headbolts would get stripped again, but its just scary. I have a brand new MLS headgasket so im ready to do everything.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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drink red bull and get all hyped up and shake your hands over your head violently and get at it. thats what i do to get myself to do stuff. ...otherwise i just stare at it until its fixed,'
ok il shut up now (redbull)
GL
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Default Re: White Smoke passed 4k Rpm

Dark/burnt oil is usually a sign of piston blow-by. How many km's on the engine?
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Default Re: White Smoke passed 4k Rpm

well i got a smell of the smoke. smells like fire crackers. some water came out of the exhaust too. white is the color of the smoke.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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Default Re: White Smoke passed 4k Rpm

Originally Posted by Bender C/F
Dark/burnt oil is usually a sign of piston blow-by. How many km's on the engine?
177k miles.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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Default Re: White Smoke passed 4k Rpm

Originally Posted by rick_rabies
piston rings...but easy fix
blue smoke would be your headgasket (coolant)
no thats the other way around. Blue smoke is oil, which is piston rings, or valve seals. And white smoke is coolant.
Although sometimes people mistake blue for white.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lilpaintballer02
well i got a smell of the smoke. smells like fire crackers. some water came out of the exhaust too. white is the color of the smoke.
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