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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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Default Ok Here goes, Automatic LS VTEC turbo?

thoughts? comments? i am fully aware of manual conversion btw. I personally think it would be interesting and something different to build like that. Daily driver BTW into this.......


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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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edit: I do have the resources/money/time to do it.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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If you plan to keep it auto I would opt for a supercharger. Instant power. Turbo needs to spool and if its auto, you are not going to have the power you could have if it was manual.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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Go supercharger 8]
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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regardless of which method you choose, the auto tranny does not hold power well. also you will be stuck with inferior tuning tools (afc, emanage). IMO its a bad idea/waste of money
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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regardless of which method you choose, the auto tranny does not hold power well. also you will be stuck with inferior tuning tools (afc, emanage). IMO its a bad idea/waste of money
Yes, you can easily do it with a GSR Auto ecu from the J-pan. Also, depending you can keep an auto ecu around to control shifts while running a chipped ecu/AEM EMS, etc for tuning....if so needed (which is not for a basic ls/vtec setup). Plus e-manage is not all that "inferior" of a tuning tool....all depends on what your tuning needs are. Honestly AEM EMS is vastly overkill for 50% or better of people who own them.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 06:28 AM
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i wouldnt do it, your gonna be going threw trannys like no tomorrow
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 95 integra
Yes, you can easily do it with a GSR Auto ecu from the J-pan. Also, depending you can keep an auto ecu around to control shifts while running a chipped ecu/AEM EMS, etc for tuning....if so needed (which is not for a basic ls/vtec setup). Plus e-manage is not all that "inferior" of a tuning tool....all depends on what your tuning needs are. Honestly AEM EMS is vastly overkill for 50% or better of people who own them.
haha this is exactly what my buddy said, with the right tuning and ECU, it is very possible and could be quite effective to do it. plus shift points would be great haha!
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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I think it sounds like a really cool Idea. I will not go turbo with my wifes car. But we are going to do a 4 door your gen integra with ls/vtec. I think a turbo one would rock. But your trans is going to be your weak link.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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i think we both share the 4 door love. you just don't see em around and even less 5speeds. but i agree with sho_shane on the tranny part. our auto trans is just not meant for that power. if you can safely do it that would be sweet, i have heard though that they can only handle about 200hp. but hey if you can do it, you might be my hero. lol. good luck.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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oh and clean db man, looks very nice
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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mine is already being setup for a stroker/supercharger on the auto trans
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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mine is already being setup for a stroker/supercharger on the auto trans
ohh what? yea thats what everyone else is saying, to supercharge it as well. Id like to see some updates from you on how that is doing PM me . Well for sure im going to slap a Vtec head on it. My friend has a ported and built b16 head ready to go for about 1k, so i might put that on. But he is the same guy that suggested boosting it too. The GSR AUTO ECU might be able to handle the power.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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just spray some NOS
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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just spray some NOS

k, bro.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mouab18c1
just spray some NOS
lol NOS!!!! :D
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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It is in all honesty cheaper to convert to manual and obviously the end result will be better. Turbo LS/Vtec is definately something that should be tuned. Heres the problem. There is no Vtec ECU that will also control an Integra automatic tranny thats chippable (civic automatic trannys are controlled differently and chipped automatic P28 just wont work here) and before someone comes in and says just use an OBD1 JDM P72 from the SiR-G (JDM version of the GS-R) they aren't chippable, they use an OBD2 square style eprom, even the OBD1 version of the ECU. See pic below:

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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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Jackson racing on top baby o yea
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha_Omega
thoughts? comments? i am fully aware of manual conversion btw. I personally think it would be interesting and something different to build like that. Daily driver BTW into this.......


Any comments welcome positive or negative.
the reason that i am doing it try here for your transmission parts http://www.levelten.com/ all so look megasquart to tune with and http://www.msruns.com/viewforum.php?...db5cd0c9c6eb71 for some info on wiring it with your ecu i will all so be doing a wright up on using crome with an auto in weeks to came i need to get the money to buy some parts and i am weighting for the snow to go before i got find the in the junkyard
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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Autos are great for turbo. No clutch so they don't drop boost between shifts. No "psshh" between shifts.

People on Honda forums have no ****ing clue about autos. They just ignorantly repeat "honda autos are weak" like the bleating of sheep because they've seen it posted on forums x million times by the ignorant fools before them. Honda auto will reliably hold around 200 whp on a daily driver. And the feeling of an auto shift with a turbo is quite fun.

But why go LS/VTEC + turbo? That's just stupid. Do this, LS + GSR tranny + turbo + turbo app cams + adjustable cam gears + dyno tune. No VTEC. Why would you want VTEC overlap? So you can blow boost right out your exhaust??
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by baller status
Autos are great for turbo. No clutch so they don't drop boost between shifts. No "psshh" between shifts.

People on Honda forums have no ****ing clue about autos. They just ignorantly repeat "honda autos are weak" like the bleating of sheep because they've seen it posted on forums x million times by the ignorant fools before them. Honda auto will reliably hold around 200 whp on a daily driver. And the feeling of an auto shift with a turbo is quite fun.
Holy cow someone with actually a quality post for once. BTW what baller status says above is true

From personal experience with a turbo automatic in a 4 banger there is nothing like it. instant turbo boost when the tranny shifts. by the way i was chirping all through the gears haha. What I was driving: 95 integra with b18b1, garrett gt2860rs turbo, upgraded torque converter 3500 rpm stalled, with stock auto tranny. smoked my buddy with his 94 teg GSR 5spd with t3/t4 turbo off the line and from stop light to stop light.

Don't believe what everyone else tells you, as long as you have the passion got for it. remember when people said hondas couldn't hit 12s then 11s, and 10s in the 1/4 mile?
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by baller status
Autos are great for turbo. No clutch so they don't drop boost between shifts. No "psshh" between shifts.

People on Honda forums have no ****ing clue about autos. They just ignorantly repeat "honda autos are weak" like the bleating of sheep because they've seen it posted on forums x million times by the ignorant fools before them. Honda auto will reliably hold around 200 whp on a daily driver. And the feeling of an auto shift with a turbo is quite fun.

But why go LS/VTEC + turbo? That's just stupid. Do this, LS + GSR tranny + turbo + turbo app cams + adjustable cam gears + dyno tune. No VTEC. Why would you want VTEC overlap? So you can blow boost right out your exhaust??
you make absolute sense about VTEC overlap thing, i had completely forgot about that. And yes people are ignorant on the forums, what i have done so far is AEM cold air, 4-1 DC sport headers, HKS Exhaust kit full 2.5" piping (not installed yet). Now thats why I was asking about VTEC and turbo, im looking to go to the next step for performance. Do I just slap the GSR head on and go NA? or do i do a boost build like u stated previously? I have the determination and money to do it, and ive been contemplating it for a long time. Thank you for a smart post
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
Holy cow someone with actually a quality post for once. BTW what baller status says above is true

From personal experience with a turbo automatic in a 4 banger there is nothing like it. instant turbo boost when the tranny shifts. by the way i was chirping all through the gears haha. What I was driving: 95 integra with b18b1, garrett gt2860rs turbo, upgraded torque converter 3500 rpm stalled, with stock auto tranny. smoked my buddy with his 94 teg GSR 5spd with t3/t4 turbo off the line and from stop light to stop light.

Don't believe what everyone else tells you, as long as you have the passion got for it. remember when people said hondas couldn't hit 12s then 11s, and 10s in the 1/4 mile?

haha yea dude i agree with your post as well. I just like automatic, easier to drive in everyday scenarios, plus this car was given to me, I have to make the best out of it Do u have any pics or VIDS of ur auto teg? i would be very interested in seeing it.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sumslapper
If you plan to keep it auto I would opt for a supercharger. Instant power. Turbo needs to spool and if its auto, you are not going to have the power you could have if it was manual.
please dont read this and get a misconception about autos! this info is garbage...

autos are better for turbos because your ALWAYS BOOSTING! their is alot less lag because of the way the motor preloads the turbo with the auto tranny.

does no one build a transmission/converter setup for these honda's????
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Originally Posted by dnhieu
please dont read this and get a misconception about autos! this info is garbage...

autos are better for turbos because your ALWAYS BOOSTING! their is alot less lag because of the way the motor preloads the turbo with the auto tranny.

does no one build a transmission/converter setup for these honda's????
http://www.levelten.com/Level_10_PTS...1800-1000s.htm
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