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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Seeing what is recommended for a front brake upgrade. I was looking at the 6 pot wilwood kit with 12.2" rotor. Anyone running this kit? If so can you use OEM style pads? Or do you have to stick with Wilwood pads?

Any other recomendations besides these 2? I am running 16" wheels in 35 offest so it should clear most calipers. Would prefer aluminium calipers to save a bit of weight. Price range is about $1000.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Why would you want to go bigger and OEM type pads?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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I have the Wilwood kit and I think your offset is too small for this kit. I have to check to see what mine is but I think it's between 40 and 45.

You can't use stock pads but Wilwood offers different pad options.

If I did it again, I'd get the Spoon kit. Just a personal preference not anything to do with how they perform.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Why would you want to go bigger and OEM type pads?
What I meant is are the Wilwood pads an OEM size of some other car? I assume they are bigger than OEM ITR ones of course. I just don't want to be limited to 1 brand of brake pads. Some kits use 350z pads or Porsche etc...
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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I recently found out that oem brakes are more than enough. I put some hawk HP+ pads and I can lock my tires if i try hard enough. I can't imagine any more breaking power :nervous:

Edit: Spoons are good and relatively cheap compared to big break upgrades but I only have experience with them on an s2000.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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I'll sell you my spoon calipers if you need some.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by n2mports
I have the Wilwood kit and I think your offset is too small for this kit. I have to check to see what mine is but I think it's between 40 and 45.
35 offset wheels have MORE brake clearance than 40-45 offset wheels.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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I run the Spoon calipers and will do it over and over again. You can't beat the compatibility of OEM rotor and pads, and at the same time offer more fluid volume, modulation, heat dissippitation, and lighter weight.

There's nothing wrong with the stock brakes either, even for track driving. So if budget allows, go for it.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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Wai do you have the twinblock or the monoblock ?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jdm_dc_fan
I recently found out that oem brakes are more than enough. I put some hawk HP+ pads and I can lock my tires if i try hard enough. I can't imagine any more breaking power :nervous:
Same here. With warm spec VR pads I can hit instant ABS at about 70mph. It'll wake you up if you are not ready for it.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Wai do you have the twinblock or the monoblock ?
I run the twinblock. The rules in my race class have limited my choice of going with a larger setup (ie. tire size, wheel width, fender, etc.) so the twinblock turned out to be puuurfect.
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Same here. With warm spec VR pads I can hit instant ABS at about 70mph. It'll wake you up if you are not ready for it.
shawn you still have spec VR? I think they've stopped them for quite a few years.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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shawn you still have spec VR? I think they've stopped them for quite a few years.
Yep, I bought 5 sets when they discontinued them. Now I am down to whats on the car and 1 BNIB.

I'll be in need of replacements soon.
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Yep, I bought 5 sets when they discontinued them. Now I am down to whats on the car and 1 BNIB.

I'll be in need of replacements soon.

Smart guy
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Wai
I run the twinblock. The rules in my race class have limited my choice of going with a larger setup (ie. tire size, wheel width, fender, etc.) so the twinblock turned out to be puuurfect.
Kinda off topic but not really that far; Wai, you video's in your sig are awesome!!! I can see that you are definitely putting those Spoon brakes to work
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Default Re: Brake upgrades? Spoon/Wilwood

Originally Posted by jdm_dc_fan
I recently found out that oem brakes are more than enough. I put some hawk HP+ pads and I can lock my tires if i try hard enough. I can't imagine any more breaking power :nervous:

Edit: Spoons are good and relatively cheap compared to big break upgrades but I only have experience with them on an s2000.
Locking the brakes or not has a lot to do with what tires you use and how you apply brake pressure, not necessarily only the brake force.
And all cars can lockup the wheels....
I find braking force is never a problem if you change to performance pads, the heating is the issue
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Originally Posted by beat
Locking the brakes or not has a lot to do with what tires you use and how you apply brake pressure, not necessarily only the brake force.
And all cars can lockup the wheels....
I find braking force is never a problem if you change to performance pads, the heating is the issue
I'm on Star Specs. It was my first time on pads (literally minutes) of that caliber and someone cut in front of me so instinct took over and I slammed on the breaks. After that I went to an empty road and perposely locked my breaks up a few times to see how far I can push it without locking it up. And btw I have a non abs model.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by emotionisdead
Kinda off topic but not really that far; Wai, you video's in your sig are awesome!!! I can see that you are definitely putting those Spoon brakes to work
Thanks.
I had Spoon calipers on my street ITR that I tracked very often, but was forced to run OEM calipers on the race car because of the class rules. Oh man I missed the Spoon calipers so much.

Then couple years later they changed the rules to allow brake upgrades so I immediately got a set of Spoons for the race car. No hesitation and no regret.
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