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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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ok so i have a 95 dc, turbo ls with koni yellows and wheels/tires that ive been daily driving for about 3 years, its been great besides the the harsh ride and since its turbo theirs been some little problems along the way. i just bought a 91 ef civic and its great for dd but ive been thinking if feels really goon driving quickly, its so flickable and light. im getting into road racing more this summer and doing hpde and stuff. would my koni yellows for my dc fit on an ef? what would ht do??

1 dc for dd, ef for weekend/track
2 ef for dd, dc for weekend/track

either way im switching my dc back to NA for reliability/cost.





ignore the lip on the teg its gone now
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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put the turbo from the teg on the civic and race the civic. boosted d's are decent, and i believe the springs will sit a lil higher on the civic
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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put the turbo from the teg on the civic and race the civic. boosted d's are decent, and i believe the springs will sit a lil higher on the civic
negative.. spool is already slow on a b18. i have GC sleeves so no it wont sit higher.. looking for intelligent responses here thanks..
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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sence you know so much then dont even ask, just make up your own mind. and your gc springs will sit lower on the civic, say the lowest you can go it 4" drop on the teg, the same 4" on the civic will not be 4" on the civic. and i didnt know you have a huge turbo.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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"HPDE and stuff"? Thats not very descriptive of the racing you are planning to do, and how often. If the Civic is reliable, you may consider daily driving it and building the teg. You could sell the civic and your turbo parts and LS engine/trans and get a JDM ITR swap and get a subframe brace/thicker rear sway bar and a good race seat. You will also need to keep a budget for race tires. Then you would have a good relaible Integra that still gets good gas mileage and you can daily drive and race on the weekends.. That is probably what I would do. Also Insurance for only one car. Your Integra looks nice by the way.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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"HPDE and stuff"? Thats not very descriptive of the racing you are planning to do, and how often. If the Civic is reliable, you may consider daily driving it and building the teg. You could sell the civic and your turbo parts and LS engine/trans and get a JDM ITR swap and get a subframe brace/thicker rear sway bar and a good race seat. You will also need to keep a budget for race tires. Then you would have a good relaible Integra that still gets good gas mileage and you can daily drive. That is probably what I would do. Also Insurance for only one car. Your Integra looks nice by the way.
haha sorry, i pretty much want to do HPDE whenever possible and slowly build the car into a more serious race car over time as i improve as a driver. thats a good option but i want to have a second car for the winter so i dont have to drive my nice weekend/race car in the bad weather. but does anyone know if dc koni yellows will bolt up to and ef?
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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yes they will.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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I would definately keep the Integra as weekend/race car then and daily the Civic if you want to keep them both. But thats just my opinion, since you asked I am giving. Having owned 3 DC Integras, 2 EJ1 Civics, and an EF SI Hatch, my feeling is the DC chassis is by far the better. If you were planning on building a competitve ST class auto cross car, I would tell you to buld the EF. Otherwise get a B18C in the DC and have fun with it.
I dont think the shocks will work. The part numbers aredifferent. I think they are interchangable with 92-95 Civic but the EF's don't have the same suspension setup as DCs/EGs.
Whatever you choose to do, you have two nice cars to work with
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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DC2 needs to be your track car. How many EF's have you compared to the DC? EF's have cheaper parts but the DC has better parts. Get a full suspension kit from ebach or tein. You'll be set.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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EF for DD. Got a swapped B16 in my ef and i've done lots of upgrading aswell. very fun dd, but still street trim.

Save the teg for a fun track car. Thats what i'm doing.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Agreed, Buddy is building up a EF Hatch for autocross, I've driving it tons w/ the suspension work he has done, I just feel my integra is planted better. Feels a lot more stable through the corners, especially out of sweepers I can get on the gas sooner.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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I do HPDE's in my GSR. Honestly, either car is a good choice. A neutrally setup Integra will feel very nice and comfortable when you first start tracking. ...But the EF is very, very capable too. This is what I'd do if I were you:

If the EF's motor is up to it, take it to a few HPDE's and run it in the uber beginner group or beginner/intermediate. You don't need to deal with boost and lots of power when you're first learning. Get a basic but capable suspension setup for the EF (Koni and Eibach pro-kits are a reliable setup) with a nice rear sway bar and a front strut tower bar for turn-in response. Get a decent set of wheels and a set of good UHP's. I suggest the Yokohama S.Drives - I run them and they are quick if driven correctly and are very forgiving, but show ALL your mistakes. You don't want a tire that's too much more capable than your driving skills or you'll never learn! lol. Also, some nice pads, brake fluid, and braided brake lines are a good idea.

Tires and brakes are the most important thing when you are tracking a car until your skills are proficient. Tire pressure and camber play a big role in how a car will drive too. Power is the last thing to worry about when tracking IMO. Once you get use to tracking, you can swap your nice wheels/tires to the Integra and see how you like it.

BTW I don't know your teggy's setup, but a moderately-sized rear sway bar with the right tire pressure and camber/toe settings will give it mild, controllable oversteer - which is very fun and very fast once you learn how to use it! My friend helped me set my Integra up like that and it's awesome :D
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigmac88
BTW I don't know your teggy's setup, but a moderately-sized rear sway bar with the right tire pressure and camber/toe settings will give it mild, controllable oversteer - which is very fun and very fast once you learn how to use it! My friend helped me set my Integra up like that and it's awesome :D
Integra Type R Rear 22mm swap bar is a great cheap performance upgrade.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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i've been dd'ing an ef for awhile....race the dc.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Integra Type R Rear 22mm swap bar is a great cheap performance upgrade.
Indeed. I'm using a Tanabe 20mm and it provides a subtle, controllable rotation. I don't have an LSD at the moment, so I'm not sure if my throttle control is up to using a bigger bar yet haha.

Oh Blox makes a cheap 21mm that bolts right up too.

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i've been dd'ing an ef for awhile....race the dc.
What?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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daily driving an EF for a couple months... fun daily, but i think a dc would be a better race car. EF does have the lightness and can handle good tho... in daily situations like parking and ****, i like having a small *** car. comes in handy almost everywhere. idk tho, if i had a b18/ b20 or k in the ef i'd prob race that tho. mine just has a sohc zc
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