Lookin to put a good sized cam and supporting mods in my D16Z6 for decent power until my turbo setup is completely ready, wanting to know what cams people are running? Thanks.

 

Bisimoto.

 

Thats what I was thinking, they're a bit pricey, but you can get everything you need from them directly, springs and keepers and even a cam gear. Guess i'll just have to wait a little longer and save up the extra $. Just don't know if I wanna spend that because it's only going in until turbo goodies are ready.

 

bump.

 

You can get the cam from Bisi and the springs from another vendor (like Supertech) to save money.

 

What's your static compression ratio? If you're building a turbo engine I am assuming you have a lower compression ratio. Installing a big cam on an engine with a lower compression ratio is going to result in less power than if you had a small cam. Bigger does not always equal better.

 

He didn't say he wanted huge, he said "good sized." A moderate NA cam is gong to make more power with boost than his stock cam, so I don't see the problem.

 

So why waste the money on a mild N/A camshaft now? Wait, save up the money and buy a good turbo camshaft when you have your turbo ready to tune. I'm not a boost guy but isn't more duration better than higher lift and wouldn't you want less overlap?

 

When I get my turbo build that far I will buy a "turbo cam", but I am taking my time with that build, so I have the money to make it as strong as possible the first time around instead of replacing stuff as I break it. The turbo motor will have a low compression ratio but the engine I am looking to put the cam in is stock comp ratio. Thanks for all your help Top Ramen.

 

Actually he said in the title he wants a "good big cam". I'm not entirely sure what he means by this though.

 

I also said "good sized" cam in the first post. Either way this cam will have nothing to do with my turbo build so I dont see what the big deal is.

 

The zex 59500 is a popular app on the vitara turbo built singles.

 

k say u were to get a stage 2 cam for d16z6 can i run that with stock springs and retainers ,and what can i plane my head to with this cam in , i race at sauble speedway in a 1/4 mile track is it going to give me a shot off the corner or is it gona pull like a bitch down the straight away thanks , Will ,G

 

WOW you sir need to figure things out. You dont just hop in someone elses thread with the word "cam" in it and start your own question and discussion process. Make your own thread and you will get better responces, plus you wont look like a dick for thread jacking.

And to answer that terrible question, NO, dont plane it unless you have to and nobody, more the likely, circle tracks a honda here.... try it for yourself. its a single, NA wont pull like a bitch.

 

yeah that had nothing to do with my question man start your own thread, good looks 93eg

 

My point is that you don't need to. If you get a moderately aggressive NA cam (as is appropriate for stock compression) it will perform as well, or better than the 'turbo cams' on the market. People used to believe that you need a different cam for forced induction with much less overlap, but testing has shown this is not true.

Best of luck with your project.

 

This.


i had a bisi 1.2 turbo cam.. the car wouldnt carry torque at all. it was a mess.

switched to an NA race profile cam from the 90s from a local cam grinder Colt cams, and bam, two weeks later i was in the 10s (was running 11.7's before).

 

I would agree with this. Stock cams generally work pretty well with turbo setups. However, a turbo engine could possibly benefit from more lift since the intake ports are under pressure but you would not know how much extra lift you need unless you flow test the head, which people rarely do.

 

However that does not mean there is anything wrong with Bisi's cams. It just means it was not right for your application.

 

it was surely the WRONG cam profile for what i was trying to do! aint that the truth!

i posted about it because it ties in 100% with the fact NA cams and boost can get a long quite well. just because a cam is labeled a "turbo" cam or an "na" cam doesnt mean it wont work better or worse for a specific application.

having a free flowing turbine and exhaust manifold is something 95% of stock factory turbo cars do not have. but those two things make the NA cam a lot more appealing to aftermarket turbo setup owners.

 

And if I saw specs on both cams and dyno graphs for both I am sure I could tell you exactly why the bisi cam didn't work for your application.

 

ill see if i can dig up the dyno graphs and post them up when i get home from work

as for the specs on the cams, you would have to contact bisimoto and colt for those...


edit; just remembered this is the NA section.. i wont be posting up any graphs here but feel free to PM me if you want to see them and offer insight Mr Tucker.

 

thanks for all the input, and saving me some money! lol.

 

No worries; that's why the forum is here.

 

You really dont need a "big" cam for a turbo setup. So if you're looking for something that will work for now with your NA setup as well as your turbo setup later on dont get something that is too aggressive for what the turbo can work with.

We have our Stage 2 SV909 cam we use for NA that works real well with basic bolt ons, and its the same cam we use for mild/wild turbo builds. It works well in both applications. It may not be the biggest cam for NA, but its decent enough to play with for now and will work well in the future.