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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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so i got popped for non compliant jdm motor (jdm b16 a in a ef ) does anybody with past knowledged know if i can sell it as is before i go to court ? what do i tell the judge or what will he ask ? is there a fine ? etc ...what can i do ? thanx in advance ...
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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sell the car as-is and get it in writing...go to court and pay the fine...if you still want to keep the car then part out the jdm motor and buy a used d15b2 motor...end of story...!!!
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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And I still laugh at how cabrones claim you can Bar a JDM engine swap!

I am one of the lucky few that have the first gen of B.A.R. stickers that only read Acura 1.8
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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And I still laugh at how cabrones claim you can Bar a JDM engine swap!

I am one of the lucky few that have the first gen of B.A.R. stickers that only read Acura 1.8
I got one too
I love it. Tho mine says 91 acura 1.8
Which sucks. Cuz they never made a GSR in 91. But what cops going to know that?
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Default Re: selling a car that needs to be barred .

sorry to jack your thread but does this mean it is illegal to swap a sohc or dohc zc into a crx without getting it bar'd? so basically if it isnt considered an exact "replacement" engine then it needs to be bar'd to be considered legal....right?
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Default Re: selling a car that needs to be barred .

Example CRX si can have a JDM single cam ZC in a swap.

Crx with a DOHC ZC is a no go.

Now CRX with USDM GSR CRX with a jdm B18C (GSR)
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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Sucks to live in Cali. lol
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Not for me! Califa's for Vida. just gotta follow rules like crazy and you cant have guns..............
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Yeah so sucks to be in Cali. lol.

My friend James got nailed for being too low, on stock suspension. Figure that one out! (im sure you know the car, it's a bit of a e-ledgend. Yellow Boso xB)
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 89LSED
I got one too
I love it. Tho mine says 91 acura 1.8
Which sucks. Cuz they never made a GSR in 91. But what cops going to know that?

Same here. I love my 90 1.8L Acura bar sticker because it doesn't state which 1.8L motor. LSV and I'm legal.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xnsxcrx
sorry to jack your thread but does this mean it is illegal to swap a sohc or dohc zc into a crx without getting it bar'd? so basically if it isnt considered an exact "replacement" engine then it needs to be bar'd to be considered legal....right?

in california, its illegal to swap ANY motor that isnt the original one, without bein approved by BAR. The motor cant be older than the body, and the emmissions sytems have to remain stock, and pass a smog test.

and yea...you cant get a BAR sticker with a JDM sticker nowdays. dont think you ever possibly could, but the Refs see a jdm motor during inspection,,,automatic fail
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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and oh yea to ykni, good luck sellin it before the court date. sell cheap to some sucker or street racer
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by projekt90ef
in california, its illegal to swap ANY motor that isnt the original one, without bein approved by BAR.
this doesn't pertain to replacement motors only engine changes...!!!
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Example CRX si can have a JDM single cam ZC in a swap.

Crx with a DOHC ZC is a no go.

Now CRX with USDM GSR CRX with a jdm B18C (GSR)
what about if it is a crx dx instead of an si, could a sohc zc be considered a replacement engine for a d15b2?
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xnsxcrx
what about if it is a crx dx instead of an si, could a sohc zc be considered a replacement engine for a d15b2?
yes...this is the same motor that i replaced my d15b2 motor with and is completely legal...remember you must use your d15b2 or d16a6 emission components and not the zc sohc emission parts...!!!
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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Default Re: selling a car that needs to be barred .

Originally Posted by projekt90ef
and oh yea to ykni, good luck sellin it before the court date. sell cheap to some sucker or street racer
what about selling it to a brother or giving it as a gift?
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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im really glad it's not that bad in utah. i just have to pass smog and safety here
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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yes...this is the same motor that i replaced my d15b2 motor with and is completely legal...remember you must use your d15b2 or d16a6 emission components and not the zc sohc emission parts...!!!
but u still gotta get it bar'd in order to be 100% legit rite? jw...
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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claim you can bar a jdm motor? Well, you can. my car has a b20b bar'd into 94 hatch. silly ref for passing it. Good friend has b20b bar'd into crx. I was told b20's couldnt be bar'd into these cars let alone being jdm motors and yet both cars passed with ease. I suggest going to the ref and seeing what he says.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by projekt90ef
but u still gotta get it bar'd in order to be 100% legit rite? jw...
no...why would you have to bar a replacement engine...!!!
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by twodoordime
claim you can bar a jdm motor? Well, you can. my car has a b20b bar'd into 94 hatch. silly ref for passing it. Good friend has b20b bar'd into crx. I was told b20's couldnt be bar'd into these cars let alone being jdm motors and yet both cars passed with ease. I suggest going to the ref and seeing what he says.
you obviously passed bar from a crooked or a incompetent ref because a b20 light truck vehicle motor is not legal to pass bar in a passenger vehicle...!!!
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:16 AM
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My BAR sticker says "B16, JDM engine" under the comments.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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man, way too many rules in cali for me, the **** they make laws for is ****in ridiculous... i feel sry for u guys...
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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man, way too many rules in cali for me, the **** they make laws for is ****in ridiculous... i feel sry for u guys...

lol. that's why i'm going to keep my car a track car
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Mine is the very rare "my bar is the **** sticker" only says Acura 1.8
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