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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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Default faster rack in eg

I know about the quaife dealeo for 300 bucks.

But, I seem to remember someone saying an integra rack will also fit.

What model integra and does it require any mod's to fit?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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yes , the integra rack fits. you may have to swap subframes to the integra one. im sure if u search around here you'll find out for sure
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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All 94-01 integras have a faster rack swap it and the sub frame for a direct bolt on deal.

A mounting tab is different between the two.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by slammed_93_hatch
All 94-01 integras have a faster rack swap it and the sub frame for a direct bolt on deal.

A mounting tab is different between the two.

Now, is it just me, or does swapping out a subframe sound like a lot of work?

Are we talking the same subframe that the suspension pickup's are on?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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i swapped the integra rack and found that the steering wasn't any quicker, however the steering radius sucked.

that's why it has a shorter ratio apparently, the same number of teeth on the pinon, but less on the rack.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mattbatson
Now, is it just me, or does swapping out a subframe sound like a lot of work?
It's not a big deal. 4 big bolts in the back, the two front LCA bolts, and I think that's it (other the steering rack bolts). Air tools help with the big rear bolts.

Originally Posted by Justin Jones
i swapped the integra rack and found that the steering wasn't any quicker, however the steering radius sucked.
Weird. I have noticed a definite and signficant difference in ratio (quickness) between the DC Integra and DX Civic racks. What Civic rack were you starting with? The Si rack was quicker, but also was PS to begin with.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 06:12 AM
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yea, its 6 bolts to get the subframe out. its alot of work because theres a lot to take off/move out of the way. but i have done it (on the old ef) a bunch of times. its not hard.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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92-95 civic and 94-01 integra avec identical subframe
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by STN_Pat
92-95 civic and 94-01 integra avec identical subframe
i've had both out. they definately are not (eg cx/non power steering and dc)
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by STN_Pat
92-95 civic and 94-01 integra avec identical subframe
Not right :p

I learned this the hard way over the winter.

I bought a Power Steering rack from an Integra and tried to install it on my Civic DX, it would not fit without swapping the subframe due to the indentation that the Integra Subframe has, and the Civic subframe did not have. I had to locate a subframe to swap the steering rack.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Default Re: faster rack in eg

weird, i installed an integra rack on a 94 DX (ps original) civic and a 92 CX (non ps original), without changing the subframe.

Plus, I have a 94 integra RS subframe sitting right here, and it's exactly the same as my totalled 92 CX subframe side by side.

the only difference are the bracket that hold the rack in the non-ps civic aren't the same as the integra.

might be a Canadian thing...
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Same info here, had to find out about the subframe the hard way. The d-bracket that holds the rack to the subframe is bigger for PS than non-ps, so the bracket will not bolt up properly to a non-ps subframe.

You will also need the knuckle that connects the spline shaft on the rack to the steering column.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinkycheezmonky
Weird. I have noticed a definite and signficant difference in ratio (quickness) between the DC Integra and DX Civic racks. What Civic rack were you starting with? The Si rack was quicker, but also was PS to begin with.
I started with a power steering civic rack (ie: si)
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 07:23 AM
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Default Re: faster rack in eg

sorry to pull up my old post...

I've been trying to find out if the quaife steering rack kit comes with new bushings or not (mine are shot and need replacing), as this would be a big motivator to get the kit.
I cannot find a U.S. quaife, only a UK one, and on that site there is not mention of this kit.

Anybody?
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Default Re: faster rack in eg

No new bushings with the Quaife rack and pinion kit. Only the rack, pinion and a new pinion bearing.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 05:40 AM
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Default Re: faster rack in eg

Originally Posted by Lo-Buck EF
i've had both out. they definately are not (eg cx/non power steering and dc)
The subframes are identical. Even have the same part number. What you saw was that the manual steering subframes are different from the power steering subframes.

So manual subframes are identical between eg/dc2, and ps subframes are identical between eg/dc2, but manual/ps are not the same.

I believe the coupler/joint between the actual steering column and steering rack are different between eg/dc2.
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