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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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im going to be doing some autox/road racing/draging this up coing summer. am getting bored so im wanting to make a rear strut bar.

should i make it with the red bars?

will it make any diff. if i do? or dont?

any and all other info will be much help......






p.s. its a del sol with a mosty stock k20a2
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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that sheetmetal in the hatch/trunk(pink) area is kind of thin and i would think any moderate amount of stress would tear it.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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yea i would have to put a back plate on it as well
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by skidder84
will it make any diff. if i do? or dont?
Nope.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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If you feel compelled to put something back there id only do a two point like this.

http://www.meganracingperformance.co...bar-p-513.html

With out a firm place to put additional support two is the better option.
Personally id buy this one and move on to the next project.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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don't bother. its cheaper/easier to buy one but they don't really do anything
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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ok if that wont do anything what about this





hahah jk thanks for the info i will not be putting anything back there
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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^^ One more triangulation and I think you'll have it.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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strut bars belong on strut cars...
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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if you want the car to feel "stiffer" bouncing over stuff then you might be able to notice it on hard bumps.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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strut bars belong on strut cars...

are you trying to be funny or are you being fo real????
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 06:11 AM
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godspeed is what im concidering for my eg. But i think they said it eliminates the rear seat belts and i dont want my car to be a hater car.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Default Re: need help on rear strut bar

1. What's a 'hater car?'
2. Strut bars do more on strut cars. Civics, integras and accords from 88-01 are not strut cars. They have shocks. Yes there is a differance.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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Default Re: need help on rear strut bar

Originally Posted by skidder84
are you trying to be funny or are you being fo real????
i am being serious. There is a reason why the top ST cars (EF chassis) choose to not have strut bars or lower tie bars. They make little to no difference on our (old) cars. For us, they are boat anchors...
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Summon the powers of The Desolate One for ultimate rear rigidity.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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Default Re: need help on rear strut bar

Originally Posted by oinojo
i am being serious. There is a reason why the top ST cars (EF chassis) choose to not have strut bars or lower tie bars. They make little to no difference on our (old) cars. For us, they are boat anchors...
yup. i ran a few of those cars and strut bars never made a differance. i had them on to make weight and (in the back) to keep the tires up against the harness bar when the back was packed.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lo-Buck EF
1. What's a 'hater car?'
2. Strut bars do more on strut cars. Civics, integras and accords from 88-01 are not strut cars. They have shocks. Yes there is a differance.
1.) A hater car is a car that has only driver and passenger seats allowing only 2 people in a car. (like i said i think godspeed rear strut bar eliminates rear seat belts making it illegal to have people sit in the back seats)
2.)Then why do i feel much improvement when i installed ebay strut bars (front and back) on my 1993 Nissan 240?? Hoping to feel the same with my Civic soon.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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its may be take driver and passenger but they will be save
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Default Re: need help on rear strut bar

Thanks for the 'hater car' clarification.
It made a differance on the 240 because that is a macpherson strut car. Strut cars see all the load in the strut tower (without getting into specifics) where as a shock-based car has a seperate upper control arm that sees load as well as the shock tower.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BMWLOVE100
its may be take driver and passenger but they will be save
You seriously need to start making sense or I'm breaking out the banhammer.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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Default Re: need help on rear strut bar

without any understanding of wheel rates and suspension design, this thread is going nowhere.
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Struts vs. Shocks

Although shocks and struts are a lot alike in function, they are very different in design. A shock is designed to control spring motion as is the strut, but the strut acts as a suspension part and sometimes replaces other suspension parts. Sometimes used as pivot points for the steering and as an adjustment tool for alignment purposes, struts can absorb side loads where shocks do not.'

SHOCK


STRUT


See the difference?
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