Which wideband kit to purchase?
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Alright i need some inputs on which wideband to purchase. I've been looking at the lc-1 Innovative wideband kit selling for about $230 from xenocron.com and was wondering what other people are runnning and if anybody have any good suggestions. Thanks
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Nice choice....didn't take long for you to make your decision eh!..... Innovate LC1 IMO is hands down the best wideband kit on the market. Bit pricey but well worth it.
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ahah yeah been doing research but always get caught with that second thought. i read your post in the tuning section about which wideband to purchase and that kind of made up my mind. ahaha
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i dont know how many he has tried but Ghostaccord is a pretty intelligent guy when it comes to honda's. and i've asked a few people about lc-1 kits. over all pretty good comments about them so i thought i'd go with it also.
I tried the AEM U-got-to-be-kidding-me and gave up trying to get it to read properly. The PLX works well but after a month it shyte the bed on me. I have owned 2 LC1's that I have never had any problems with over the past 3 years..... Why would I need to use anything else? The old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" still holds true in the world of tuning doesn't it?
Just wondering. Mostly because I've never seen you mention the use of any other widebands besides the LC-1.
I've had the same PLX m300 for the past 5 years and it is barely starting to show signs of fatigue(the gauge). It's been through 6 sensors and has been in and out of well over 100 cars.
I've used LC-1's as well and I hate that they're so damn finicky with their grounds, especially when trying to tune a car you have no idea about. Most cars aren't ever grounded properly so the LC-1 gives issues. When they work, they work. But I prefer the LM2 of the Innovate line.
The AEM is a joke. I'm really amazed as to why some "big name" guys support it so much. I haven't met a single tuner that doesn't hate it.
I've had the same PLX m300 for the past 5 years and it is barely starting to show signs of fatigue(the gauge). It's been through 6 sensors and has been in and out of well over 100 cars.
I've used LC-1's as well and I hate that they're so damn finicky with their grounds, especially when trying to tune a car you have no idea about. Most cars aren't ever grounded properly so the LC-1 gives issues. When they work, they work. But I prefer the LM2 of the Innovate line.
The AEM is a joke. I'm really amazed as to why some "big name" guys support it so much. I haven't met a single tuner that doesn't hate it.
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aswell as i hate the AEM. had one when i first started getting into tuning biggest waste of time. sensors went out like crazy. i have had 2 plx's since and have no problems the DM5 is permanently mounted in my car as the M300TE i use for customers. Also my 2 and a customers DM5 are within tolerance with our dyno jet lab grade wideband. i think its off 1 tenth. also have my buddys car has ran an older m300 in his 500whp car for over 4 years. Havent used innovative so i cant comment on that.
We run a lot of leaded gas so we need a sensor that can deal with heat and lead. I've been running the NGK AFX with NTK sensors on a lot of my cars. I love it
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i've already bought and installed my lc-1 wideband kit with the red db gauge. purchased from xenocron where i usually purchase my products. hoping to street tune this weekend
I used the NGK AFX with the ntk sensors as well and it's one of the best wideband that i've used beside the fjo one. The NTK sensor is a little pricey, but they can handle lead gas.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/engine-management-tuning-124/innovate-lc-1-moates-o-meter-2520914/ for info about this question.
You can split your 0-5 volt wire for your ecu and for your gauge
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