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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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I've been wondering do they sell VSM in a single stage?
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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i doubt it but i could be wrong. what ever the color was from factory is how they sell it. they have no reason to sell it otherwise
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 97ej6dx
i doubt it but i could be wrong. what ever the color was from factory is how they sell it. they have no reason to sell it otherwise

unfortunately, you are wrong. They do sell vsm in a single stage, just have to find the brand that does as all manufacturers dont. Dupont distributors that sell nason paint have it in a single stage, I believe ppg does as well. Just because a car comes as a base/clear from the factory. The manufacturers dont follow that, they just make the formula. Manufacturers take short cuts all the time. Like cars that come in true 3 stage, pearl paints, some brands sell it in a base coat, with pearl effect mixed in the base. It is quicker to spray and thus cuts down on time in the booth so its great for shops that just pull them in and push em out, but its a noticeable difference in the finish. You can get almost any color in a single stage paint nowadays. Just have to be extra careful when spraying a heavy mettalic single stage, cause well if you dont lay it just right your gonna have all kinds of metallic buildup and splotches.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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since were on the VSM topic, which brand would you recommend? 1 or 2 stage paint.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IMPATIENT
unfortunately, you are wrong. They do sell vsm in a single stage, just have to find the brand that does as all manufacturers dont. Dupont distributors that sell nason paint have it in a single stage, I believe ppg does as well. Just because a car comes as a base/clear from the factory. The manufacturers dont follow that, they just make the formula. Manufacturers take short cuts all the time. Like cars that come in true 3 stage, pearl paints, some brands sell it in a base coat, with pearl effect mixed in the base. It is quicker to spray and thus cuts down on time in the booth so its great for shops that just pull them in and push em out, but its a noticeable difference in the finish. You can get almost any color in a single stage paint nowadays. Just have to be extra careful when spraying a heavy mettalic single stage, cause well if you dont lay it just right your gonna have all kinds of metallic buildup and splotches.
fortunate for him tho
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by unusual71
since were on the VSM topic, which brand would you recommend? 1 or 2 stage paint.

I always reccomend a base/clear whenever possible. spraying basecoat is quite simple as long as youve got a good pattern and overlap and dont have too much material coming out. VSM is a very heavy metallic so if your gun isnt dialed in right, or your not familiar with spraying heavy metallics you can get some metallic buildup, if its too hot and the base is drying before it hits the panel, that can cause buildup and splotchiness, you want to spray heavy metallics in a cooler environment than when your spraying catalyzed sealer, or clear.. But if buildup or splothes are noticeable,after its flashes, it is fixable before even laying clear. You can sand it down real quick, tack it off and rebase. Clearcoat is of course the toughest part of keeping the finish looking good, BUT, if your laying the clear real heavy and too slow you may get some runs or some peel. The good thing about clear is its incredibly forgiving for the user, you can sand and buff a crappy clear job into a really good looking finish, just have to be prepared for some time spent with getting familiar with clear and how to buff it. Single stage, not so much, you pretty much have one chance to get single stage right cause you gotta lay it wet and if you screw up, gotta come back the next day and try and fix it. With base/clear, you can mess up a bunch of things, but spend some time with some high grit sandpaper and a buffer and have a really good looking finish, as long as your base was layed right..
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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really good info here been wondering about some of these things too and got some good answers thanks
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