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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:31 AM
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anyone swapped an integra without a hoist?

Ive done the drop engine+tranny method on 2 civics, but there's a lot less space with a B series.

my plan is to drop tranny + engine together, raise car up, slide out, slide in new stuff, then bolt it up. But we all know it never goes as planned
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 05:11 AM
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I have thought about this method myself. But the question is, how do you get the car high enough to get the engine out from underneath? I couldn't figure that out, so I ended up just getting a used hoist locally for 50 bucks + an extra 25 I gave the guy to deliver it to my house.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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The guy I bought my motor from, he dropped the motor and tranny from the bottom. I got there as he was finishing up. Didn't get to see the whole process, though. I just know that he had the motor on a hydraulic jack so he could control it as he was bringing it down and roll it out.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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Yes, though I had an "A" frame to pick the car up with. For that matter I lowered the engine on a dolly with the same A frame and probably could have taken it out the top. I have also taken the tranny off and then the long block out....which is probably better if you are doing it without a hoist or a frame. Luckily I bought a hoist about 5 years ago and it has well served it purpose.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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When we swapped my motor out, we had everything but the last 2 motor mount bolts undone and then put the car up on jack stands as high as it would go. loosened the bolts and dropped the motor with a jack onto a creeper and rolled it out from under the car. We also left one of the shift linkage cables hooked up so when we reused that tranny we didn't have to undo and redo that annoying barrel pin
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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that annoying barrel pin
Oh the b*tch pin....the fun we have had over the years. Luckily I have the right size metric punch and a big hammer now. Still have some issues with the limited space to swing the hammer, but I have better luck now then I use to.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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I have thought about this method myself. But the question is, how do you get the car high enough to get the engine out from underneath? I couldn't figure that out, so I ended up just getting a used hoist locally for 50 bucks + an extra 25 I gave the guy to deliver it to my house.
I've raised my previous Civics high enough with jacks to clear a d16y7 and d15b2, don't think a B18c1 is that much taller. I'm mainly concerned with space because the bay seems so much more crowded than the civic's
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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I have pulled motors and put them in this way. I didn't have space to use a hoist and honestly I think its almost as easy and I did this alone so it could have gone easier with help. This is what I do, get the motor ready to be pulled, only the passenger side motor mount and driver side mount left, then put a creeper or something low to the ground with wheels under the car, lower the car as low as it will go with the wheels off the car, this put the oil pan onto the creeper, unbolt the motor mounts from the motor not from the car then lift the car back into the air as high as you can and roll the motor out. The hardest part is getting the front end high enough to get the motor out, I had to tilt the motor and use a block to lift the car high enough. Putting it back in is about the same, just lower the car over the motor and with the motor mounts on the car, not tightened, line up the motor mounts the the brackets and then bolt them up. good luck hope that helps
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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I would imagine the hardest part is lining the motor mounts up when re-installing right? This took me the longest when I swapped my D series...
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Just line up the top 2 and lift it up. then tighten the torque mounts and jack the car up. wiggle your way under and do the rear t bracket. It takes some time to get the t bracket on, but it works
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 04:41 PM
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Well the rednecks and my dad used to use a comealong and a tree or a A-frame and a comealong never dropped one out the bottom before always used a hoist myself
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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ya i used to use this method also, if your jack doesnt lift the car high enough just put some bricks on it or something to lift it that last little bit. thats what we always did
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Originally Posted by 95 integra
Oh the b*tch pin....the fun we have had over the years. Luckily I have the right size metric punch and a big hammer now. Still have some issues with the limited space to swing the hammer, but I have better luck now then I use to.
Matco Tools' air hammer anvil made specifically for the Honda shift linkage spring pin FTW. Takes out the pin and installs it in about 2 seconds flat with minimal effort.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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aiight I have to chime in on this one...
doing this kind of swap is easy and if you have done it with d series then it is very similar with be series... the easiest way I found was once the old engine is out was to lower the car onto the engine as low your jacks will permit to limit having to raise the engine into the bay. the reason for this is so that you can manuver the engine onto the mounts easier and without risking dropping the motor... one thing you will want to do is install the IM last so that you can get that rear mount with ease.

also check out g2ic for the B***h pin how to... it involves a c clamp and some various screwdriver bits and a socket and is very very easy!!!
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gamerchiq
When we swapped my motor out, we had everything but the last 2 motor mount bolts undone and then put the car up on jack stands as high as it would go. loosened the bolts and dropped the motor with a jack onto a creeper and rolled it out from under the car. We also left one of the shift linkage cables hooked up so when we reused that tranny we didn't have to undo and redo that annoying barrel pin
I used this method for about 5 swaps. Who need a hoist? Either way, you have to removed what that is in the way (a/c;lines,radiator/fans,p/s) to free up space so a hoist would be a great tool.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Yes lower the car onto the motor don't try to bring the motor up to the car that will make lining it up much easier
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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I have pulled motors and put them in this way. I didn't have space to use a hoist and honestly I think its almost as easy and I did this alone so it could have gone easier with help. This is what I do, get the motor ready to be pulled, only the passenger side motor mount and driver side mount left, then put a creeper or something low to the ground with wheels under the car, lower the car as low as it will go with the wheels off the car, this put the oil pan onto the creeper, unbolt the motor mounts from the motor not from the car then lift the car back into the air as high as you can and roll the motor out. The hardest part is getting the front end high enough to get the motor out, I had to tilt the motor and use a block to lift the car high enough. Putting it back in is about the same, just lower the car over the motor and with the motor mounts on the car, not tightened, line up the motor mounts the the brackets and then bolt them up. good luck hope that helps
+1 My first few pulls I went out through the top, then I helped my buddy out and we dropped it through the bottom. After doing that I will almost never take an engine out through the top.

IMO, dropping the subframe and engine/transmission is much easier and less time consuming than trying to get it through the top. Again, this is just my opinion. I know some guys that swear by pulling it through the top.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 01:04 AM
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My buddy and I just did a swap in his Integra. We used a hand winch strapped to a beam in his garage, jacked the car high as possible, lowered the motor and trans downward on a furniture dolly,( we used 2 jack stand also for safety on the 2 jack points by each front door), then jacked the car higher under the sub frame, slid the motor out.. to install we rolled the motor under with a jack, low ward the car close enough then jacked the motor upwards.... Hope that helps...
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