hey guys i am new to the board and i was just wondering if anyone has had this sawp into their accord. i have a 93 accord and currently my car is in the process of getting a new engine in. so what are your experiences or thoughts on this swap

 

what year and model car did this motor come from? i know of the f20b, i heard it's good for like 198hp, or 200ps. i've heard of the f22 DOHC, just can't remember where it came from

 

better search before u get flamed

F22B was a JDM Acclude engine. detroked ver of what we know better as the H23A1. Lots of potential and CHEAP here in the USA due to no one wanting it.

edit: oh and i think it was availble betwewn 90-97 in the JDM. 160hp@6000 / 148 ft lbs torque @ 5000.


[Modified by GimpyAccord, 7:26 AM 9/5/2002]

 

the engine is from a jdm prelude basically its a dohc non vtec, makes 160 hp i beleive, reason im asking is instead of putting a stock f22a in he said he could get it cheaper and its a little more hp than my stock 2.2.
i called up his shop and he is doing this swap for me as a favor cuz i need my car asap. i threw a rod in the orig. motor i can't afford the h22 as of rite now, so he is doing it for 1300 installed. so was it a good choice? opinions welcome

 

well i trust the guy he goes to school with me and he's a friend of mine, but i just wanted your guys opinion on it, he mainly does s13 and s14 swaps and conversions now.

 

i think you made a good decision... i do know u can get this engine for like 400-500 though. obviously not including labor.... assuming you cant do the work yourself that is.


[Modified by GimpyAccord, 7:26 AM 9/5/2002]

 

not many, but i hear that if you have high milage on the f22a's if you rebuild it with new pistons there will be too migh upper compression and it will start burning oil ;/ CHANGE YOUR TIMING BELT!! Luckily i havent experienced that and hopefully wont ever.

not sure about f22b's though..


[Modified by Accord Maniac, 11:30 PM 9/4/2002]

 

gimpyaccord where can you get the dohc for 500$ ? would that bolt up to my f22a1 tranny? thanks alot

 

yes the tranny will boltup, no i dont know where the best price is to get one.

obviously its going to cost you more if you're not in cali to ship it... call nippon or hondamotorsonline et al. search for best motor importers.

 

call steve at hondamotorsonline.

 

Did the F22B DOHC come with an LSD tranny?

 

No, but you can get one with it.

 

forgot about this thread....

btw this engine is almost getting not worth it $$$ wise. Its obviously gaining popularity because even Steve @ honda motors online would go 675+shipping on it (with no tranny). 4-5 months ago it was more like 300-400+shipping.

 

splain please? h22a lsd?

EDIT, it's worth getting for me cause even at $1000 for the motor tranny ecu etc. it's way cheaper than the $3200+ h22a's go for up here. Canadian prices btw.


[Modified by psyphre, 12:47 AM 9/10/2002]

 

That is pretty much it.

 

i think i'd go lookin hard enough for a H23A1 first tho... with the jacking up of prices on them you could prolly find a nice H23A1+tranny for not much more if not the same. just my opinion though... same engine with the F22 bore.

 

I'll check around i guess. One of the resons i want the f22b was the DSM maniflod mod. Does that work on the h23a's?


[Modified by psyphre, 12:58 AM 9/10/2002]

 

yes, F22A1-4-6, H23A1, F22B, and maybe the H22A??? share the same exhaust flange.

only reason i throw the h22a in there is i've readin the prelude forum the f22b/h23a1/h22a start their lives out as the same basic block.

 

The exhaust manifold bolts to the head. Not the block. Just from eyeballing it, I dont think there is anyway an F22b1 header would bolt on to a H22a.

 

if you can get the motor for a good deal, then by all means go for it. but, dont be fooled, this motor is not a powerhouse and would not be worth spending lots o' cash for.

personally, i would rather spend a little extra and build the **** outta the single camer or just get an h23 that you know the history of.

a few firends of mine have the f22 twin cam swap in there 4th gens and were not pleased totally. if you are dead set on that motor, i whole heartedly suggest picking up at least an h23 tranny, or better yet the h22.

 

i apologize for the slip.

still stands though, they share the same flange (save the h22a). i guess i should take my *** to sleep... now i remember the only reason to care about them being the same block is h22a/h23/f22b head swaps/hybrid.

we're talking about JDM F22B .. not USDM F22B1 or B2 which do have a funky flange.

this is the flange in question:
sorry for dark pic


and this is a comparison shots of the DSM vs. F22A1-4-6 et al exhaust gasket:







as you can see the bolts do not line up perfectly and require hogging out.


[Modified by GimpyAccord, 6:11 AM 9/10/2002]