whats the best and cheapest turbo kits for an 08 si sedan? cause there is some on ebay for less then 1,000.00.

 

IBAJP

 

My opinion, AJP is best but SRT may not be bad.

Greddy or TSI prolly cheapest.

You can get a turbo housing and rotating assembly for a grand not a kit!

OP you better save about 8 grand to make your kit complete and labor to get it installed. YOu will need a professional to do everything for you since you believe a turbo kit costs a grand

 

lol don't go ebay

 

how is this even a question, full race all day....they the best in the business

 

SRT has some business issues and I would recommend not going with their kit unless ou live in Md. So you can pay the same time you get your kit. AJP makes great power but Greddy is nice and cheaper. Full race is bad *** but is pretty expensive.

Ebay is the dumbest place to buy a turbo.

 

That cracked me up!

 

lol well im glad I made you laugh for once. Normally its you making me ROFLMAO

 

everytime I try and go to that ajp turbo website it doesnt work. Anyone know other website that sells them, I wanna check them out

 

I personally have a base SRT kit (C.U.T.)
Ebay is out of the question, unless they are selling you a used kit in one of the following catagories:
Greddy is the cheapest reliable kit. your upgrade paths are limited, and max WHP is around 300 without doing some serious modifying/customization (aka cutting, welding, replacing 1/2 the kit). This is a log style manifold.

TSI is probably a small step up in power, but reliability had been an issue with them in the past (not a popular choice). Cheapest tubular manifold style, but also not great as far as upgrade paths go.

SRT (Swift Racing Technologies) would be the next big step up from there. This kit (which I own, and I live in Illinois) does what it advertises as a base kit. They initially had some issues, but they're getting back on track. They were a little slow in responding to people, but I think they'll be all right. I'm currently doing 360whp on 10lbs of boost on the base CUT kit on the precision 4431e turbo. There are a lot of upgrade paths, and you can definitely hit 450whp on the stock block. (with tuning and full install)
The CUT kit gives you everything you need: Exhaust, clutch, Turbo kit itself, intercooler, injectors, piping, gauges, and boost controller, and there are no "gotcha's" or "extras" you need to get. But you can still upgrade from the CUT kit.
If you Upgrade to the sc60 or 6262 (extra $300?) and bigger injectors (injector dynamics 1000cc, extra $150 I believe) You can do 410hp on 10lbs, and you can push it to 12-13lbs which is~450whp.

Full race is the most expensive and supposedly top of the line, and they've also proven themselves as able to make big power on past kits and been around a while. They're a lot more expensive, but have a decent amount of option, and a very large upgrade path. You're looking at (including tuning and install) over $10 grand. They dont have a base "full setup" 1-click option like SRT that includes clutch, exhaust and other such needed upgrades into the price.

So far, I have yet to see someobody beat the numbers on the SRT kit on the top end, or do an actual equivalent comparison (same/similar turbo, and let the rest of the kit do the talking). So far the numbers from SRT and Full race have been very similar, especially when looking at the turbo sizes. 400whp seems to be the average on a garret gt30 (for full race) and precision 6262 (SRT)

SRT kit on built engine: 17.8lbs of boost, 558whp on 93 octane, over 650whp on Q16

 

Wildabeast you need to look at AJP.

I chose that because of the numbers alone. I'm not sure what you're talking about as far as the srt being unmatched on the top end. And as far as simplicity, AJP there were no options. So if you like one click shopping, AJP had that also. I bought the kit and paid my installer/tuner and I was done. And then once the flashpro came out they even supplied a base map that needed little to no tuning.

Also with the srt I saw something about a head gasket the came with the kit. That alone steered me away from the kit because of the extra cost associated with changing it. It makes the installation that much harder...all just for a gasket that lowers the static compression ratio. And you could argue that it makes the engine safer under boosted conditions but it you have proper ignition timing there is no issue.

I ran 10.5 psi and 414 whp and 302 torque with the stock clutch. So you also paid for a clutch in your kit also which added cost.

I run pump gas and get no engine knock according to my flashpro data logs

 

no, there's no head gasket, that's just hearsay. Not sure where you got your info from, but their part list is directly on their website.

Here's the base CUT kit part list: http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/item.aspx?id=132 (thats what I have)
However, you can customize the kit, including turbo, boost controller, wastegate, exhaust/dp, and a couple other things

but you can get just the turbo kit: http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/item.aspx?id=115
do the DIY: http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/item.aspx?id=133

and I sure as hell would NOT want the stock clutch in my car. I'd like my clutch to last a while, and not have to replace it in 1/3 of the time, or have it slip.


numbers wont sell me. I need drivability, quality, and customer service on top of numbers, everything from highway to stop and go traffic to snow to ripping on it, and being able to be sleeper to being able to call up and get answers to my questions in a timely fashion. Normal driving, you cant tell that im boosted, and barely can tell im modified (exhaust note is fairly quiet), and you cant see the IC unless you're looking for it.

my goals werent just numbers, otherwise i wouldnt have even gotten myself a civic in the first place. (not the greatest platform for just numbers, i'd take an AWD car any day for numbers over fwd)

and actually I DID look at AJP about a year ago to year and half ago. But with horror stories, and huge wait times, along with less than satisfactory reviews of the kit's quality. I need something that can last through chicago winters (salt, slush, snow ice and all)

My choices at that time were ajp, redshift (but still waiting on R&D), greddy (but not really), and TSI

 

My car drives perfectly nothing odd at all. I am not going to replace my clutch until needed. Right now it's perfectly fine.

btw at nearly 100hp per liter in stock form normally aspirated. only exotics can match those numbers. Pretty good numbers if you ask me.

Usually aftermarket clutches don't last longer they just have higher clamping forces that prevent slipping which is what wears the clutch disc out. I'm not slipping so I'll be good bro don't worry about me

I think ajp had one bad story which got out of control. But I don't know those people so I have nothing to gain by talking them up. I just know I got my turbo quick and customer support/service was fast and prompt and they are still helping me and working with me and answering my questions to this day....a year later. I don't see how you can go wrong with them. And they know the car and it's limits well....gives me good peace of mind.

 

oh yeah one last thing why I didnt like the ajp kit. It's not a pure bolt on kit. gotta cut the oil pan and tap it (not sure if there are other things, but the buck stopped there for me)

I have all my stock parts, and if I take off the SRT kit. I'm back in stock form no problem. It's a pure bolt-on kit, no cutting, welding, splicing or grinding needed.

I wanted more clamping force because I didnt like the stock clutch anyways. How many miles do you have on your clutch with the kit?
Stock clutch should be good for about 80k miles on a stock car. Put 2.5x as much TQ on, and the clutch life gets shot to hell.

 

All the normal suspects man. A guy with ajpturbo in his username is obviously going to lean to a specific set-up. Also, a guy that is running the SRT CUT is going to support a turbo kit he has had excellent history with.

I'll start out saying that I am working on a Full-Race turbo set-up...kinda. Full-Race has the parts I want. That is why I chose Full-Race parts. Many parts are of my own choosing and are not even available from Full-Race.

AJP was almost my choice, but the turbo was too big and laggy for what I wanted to do and after much talking to them, it was going to be a lot of money for me to change it up the way I wanted it.

SRT is a good kit and the company has recently had a few rough patches, AJP hit the same wall when they first dropped their kit. The company wasn't ready to be the one and only supplier of quality high power turbo kits on the market. It happened, it wasn't one case it was several, dig in the archives over on the Ocho and you will find the stories. Very poor support in the beginning for non Floridians. Both companies seem to be past this now and are going strong.

OP, if you are new to boost and just want something to get used to a turbo set-up, Greddy is not a bad choice. It's a solid turbo kit that many users have logged over 100k miles on. The original tuning was for 8.5psi and making roughly 300whp. With new tuning available I'm willing to bet we will see 350-375whp out of that kit with mild modifications soon enough.

I would never recommend getting a turbo without a clutch upgrade myself but the fact is no real long term damage will come of using the stock one til it burns up, the slippage will be there even from the beginning. It will be next to unnoticeable but it will be there. Slowly and surely this will wear the clutch out and once the slippage is noticeable, it will go downhill fast.