I'm getting an EG pretty soon and I'm planning to throw my Recaro's in and strap myself down with a set of Takata harness's. My question is, are all those fancy bars necessary? Can someone make me a list of what bar does what function towards the chassis tuning accompanied with a picture please and/or maybe a link? Thanks.

 

No one?

 

It depends. What bars are you talking about? The HARNESS bar? Not sure what this thread is doing in the suspension forum, but I'll give it a shot.

It's so funny, 2,000+ posts yet a lack of clarity.
Well, if you are talking about the harness bar, and JUST a harness bar, I don't see it beneficial to chassis stiffness.

Now, if you were to get a built cage WITH a harness bar attached, then sure.

 

Read MOAR Clearly. Thats my question. List the bar's *not just the harness bar* that stiffen what part of the chassis and why. For instance, I want to know why a Miracle X bar costs so much and what function does it do to your car. And the number of post's shouldnt mean anything. Buying and Selling is my main thing for H-T, I go elsewhere for info...now I know why I don't get out of the Marketplace section...because of douche bags like you...if you dont have anything informative to say, GTFO plain and simple. Thanks.

 

GTFOing... now. I'd like to apologize because I know I'm not a douchebag. So sorry for ruining you out of marketplace experience. My bad.

Btw, none of this is sarcastic. No.... really.

 

Only way to SAFELY run 4/5pt harnesses is with a roll cage and properly incorporated harness bar. A "harness" bar will cause you more harm than safety in the case of an accident. Most of the b/c/miracle X bars are just hazardous and do little to truly stiffen the chassis. A properly made roll cage willl provide much more function than those bars provide form.

Also will this car be track duty or just spirited driving?

run some searches on what you want to find. i've already started finding more information in about 10 minutes.
Keep that statement in mind too.

 

Damn! Thats nuts, I thought they were better. Thanks for the input. I haven't really found that much on these "chassis stiffening/Harness bars. I just think its bullshit that they're soo expensive and do nothing to protect you or help the chassis. My car will see weekend sprint racing and also some track. I do want a roll cage cus a few buddies have spun out and rolled over when they hit grassy hills...that **** scares me. This will more than likely be my daily every once and a while so I doubt a roll cage will be necessary.

 

harness bar, 5 point harness, weld in an x brace, wheel spacers for correct suspension angle will help you avoid the need for that roll cage (assuming you're lowered)

 

be sure you mount your harness properly, or else in a crash it will compress your spine. I think you need to just keep your stock seatbelts, and forget about the ricer harness deal, along with the '548356 strut bars you probably want'. If your not installing a 6 point cage at the very least, you don't need harness since you can't mount them properly.

 

Everyone STOP posting in this thread RIGHT NOW unless you're going to post correct info! Racing seats + racing harnesses (or even harnesses alone) MANDATE roll-over protection. That means either a true roll bar or cage. Why? Because with stock seat belts you can move over if the car rolls and roof caves in. With harnesses you cannot. Skull crushed, neck snapped, probably instant death or paralysis most likely.

No, a cross brace isn't enough.

No, a harness bar isn't enough.

No, wheel spacers and lowering isn't enough (why is that even mentioned here?)

Also do not EVER think your car cannot be rolled over. On public streets with all the MORONIC IDIOTS around, believe me, ANYTHING can happen.

That is all.

 

I feel what I posted pretty much concurs with what you're saying. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Thanks! See, this is the stuff I was talking about! Input from people that really have a setup, not like the rest of you retards that see a picture, look at some negative comments, add your 2 cents in there, and spread nonsense...

Here's what Im looking at right now.
http://www.autopowerindustries.com/I...g/DSC_2848.jpg
I plan to have this installed into my EH3 for auto-x, and weekend fun. This will not be my daily. I just want to make sure if I ever roll over, Im pretty much good, and not thrown around where I can lose an arm or whatever. It has a built in harness bar for my "ricer" Takata harnesses. I think these function better than stock IMO.

Again, thanks for the input guys. I really appreciate it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Q5Z...layer_embedded
This is the video that got me scared...And dont talk **** about the driver and his angle of attacking the APEX...it shows you cars can roll over n ****.

 

Just be wearing of what you're putting in, and make sure its functional.

 

yep, that's why I told everyone to stop posting unless it as correct info, which yours appears to be

 

Is this up for the task?