Skunk2 Pro2 with boost! Opinions...
Buddy of mine was doing a all motor setup then just changed to boost because of a great deal on a kit. He has Skunk2 Pro2 cams, I need to know what experiences anyone has had with them good or bad.
Considering my own personal experience, as well as what I've read from great builders/tuners such as Jeff Evans and Tony Palo from T1, OEM GSR or Type R cams are the best options for a moderately built, stock port head, revving to 9k (or less) making under 500whp. At over 500whp(and a rev limit of 9.5-10k) you will probably see gains in midrange-top end by switching to Sk2 Tuner 2's or Sk2 Pro 1 cams. As far as I know, Sk2 Pro 1's are the biggest off-the-shelf cams that are proven effective in the 600-1000whp range. Even the big boys are using Sk2 Pro 1's (or a similar lift/duration custom grind) to produce high 3 and low 4 digit whp numbers within sfwd. Up to now I pretty sure no one has gained anything by switching to cams as big as pro2's because you would need a very large turbo (bigger than s372r or 42r) and be looking for numbers over 1200whp to benefit from such a large duration cam in a forced induction setup. I would suggest trying to trade your Pro2's for Pro1's or even Tuner2's and some cash. But depending on your setup you may not even need cams that big (like I said GSR and Type R's are very effective in moderate builds). Post up what motor mods you have, the turbo you intend to use and your target whp so myself and others could more accurately determine what cams are ideal for you.
Considering my own personal experience, as well as what I've read from great builders/tuners such as Jeff Evans and Tony Palo from T1, OEM GSR or Type R cams are the best options for a moderately built, stock port head, revving to 9k (or less) making under 500whp. At over 500whp(and a rev limit of 9.5-10k) you will probably see gains in midrange-top end by switching to Sk2 Tuner 2's or Sk2 Pro 1 cams. As far as I know, Sk2 Pro 1's are the biggest off-the-shelf cams that are proven effective in the 600-1000whp range. Even the big boys are using Sk2 Pro 1's (or a similar lift/duration custom grind) to produce high 3 and low 4 digit whp numbers within sfwd. Up to now I pretty sure no one has gained anything by switching to cams as big as pro2's because you would need a very large turbo (bigger than s372r or 42r) and be looking for numbers over 1200whp to benefit from such a large duration cam in a forced induction setup. I would suggest trying to trade your Pro2's for Pro1's or even Tuner2's and some cash. But depending on your setup you may not even need cams that big (like I said GSR and Type R's are very effective in moderate builds). Post up what motor mods you have, the turbo you intend to use and your target whp so myself and others could more accurately determine what cams are ideal for you.
"Sk2 Pro 1's are the biggest off-the-shelf cams that are proven effective in the 600-1000whp range."
ROFL
"Even the big boys are using Sk2 Pro 1's (or a similar lift/duration custom grind) to produce high 3 and low 4 digit whp numbers within sfwd."
you realize anything past 400whp and you start to have trouble steering during acceleration. Not many here are making pure drag cars (most people are just tuners who like having a nice car that can go fast when needed).
saying skunk2 is only good for this or that, you really have no clue. I suggest you go read up more, especially on honda engines and the skunk2 cams made for honda's, I would love to see a measly civic get 1200whp. **** I wouldn't mind seeing 1200 just to the crank. You have no clue what-so-ever. Your post should be deleted by a mod......
Pro-2's are too much cam for the boost, you might see some midrage gains but the top end will suffer.
One big thing you forgot to mention is the type of Turbo Manifold used makes a huge difference in what cams will work and what wont.... you should not run Pro-1's with a log manifold........
I dont agree with the Pro-2 working on very high hp setups...... IMO your just blowing good useable boost right out the exhaust.
BTW Tuner2's are basically Pro-1's and will make similar numbers but the 2's have semi-stock low cam lobes and will make less power Pre-VTEC vs the Pro-1's.
Considering my own personal experience, as well as what I've read from great builders/tuners such as Jeff Evans and Tony Palo from T1, OEM GSR or Type R cams are the best options for a moderately built, stock port head, revving to 9k (or less) making under 500whp. At over 500whp(and a rev limit of 9.5-10k) you will probably see gains in midrange-top end by switching to Sk2 Tuner 2's or Sk2 Pro 1 cams. As far as I know, Sk2 Pro 1's are the biggest off-the-shelf cams that are proven effective in the 600-1000whp range. Even the big boys are using Sk2 Pro 1's (or a similar lift/duration custom grind) to produce high 3 and low 4 digit whp numbers within sfwd. Up to now I pretty sure no one has gained anything by switching to cams as big as pro2's because you would need a very large turbo (bigger than s372r or 42r) and be looking for numbers over 1200whp to benefit from such a large duration cam in a forced induction setup. I would suggest trying to trade your Pro2's for Pro1's or even Tuner2's and some cash. But depending on your setup you may not even need cams that big (like I said GSR and Type R's are very effective in moderate builds). Post up what motor mods you have, the turbo you intend to use and your target whp so myself and others could more accurately determine what cams are ideal for you.
I dont agree with the Pro-2 working on very high hp setups...... IMO your just blowing good useable boost right out the exhaust.
BTW Tuner2's are basically Pro-1's and will make similar numbers but the 2's have semi-stock low cam lobes and will make less power Pre-VTEC vs the Pro-1's.
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Pro 2's will work good if you are running a very big turbo with a turbo manifold that has long runners. Pro 1's should be the biggest but if you already have the pro 2's go ahead and run them. It's not going to hurt performance to the point that GSR or ITR cams would make more power then the pro 2's. Post your results because I am sure there will be an all motor guy out there that wants to go turbo and is in the same situation.
You have no clue what your talking about......
"Sk2 Pro 1's are the biggest off-the-shelf cams that are proven effective in the 600-1000whp range."
ROFL
"Even the big boys are using Sk2 Pro 1's (or a similar lift/duration custom grind) to produce high 3 and low 4 digit whp numbers within sfwd."
you realize anything past 400whp and you start to have trouble steering during acceleration. Not many here are making pure drag cars (most people are just tuners who like having a nice car that can go fast when needed).
saying skunk2 is only good for this or that, you really have no clue. I suggest you go read up more, especially on honda engines and the skunk2 cams made for honda's, I would love to see a measly civic get 1200whp. **** I wouldn't mind seeing 1200 just to the crank. You have no clue what-so-ever. Your post should be deleted by a mod......
"Sk2 Pro 1's are the biggest off-the-shelf cams that are proven effective in the 600-1000whp range."
ROFL
"Even the big boys are using Sk2 Pro 1's (or a similar lift/duration custom grind) to produce high 3 and low 4 digit whp numbers within sfwd."
you realize anything past 400whp and you start to have trouble steering during acceleration. Not many here are making pure drag cars (most people are just tuners who like having a nice car that can go fast when needed).
saying skunk2 is only good for this or that, you really have no clue. I suggest you go read up more, especially on honda engines and the skunk2 cams made for honda's, I would love to see a measly civic get 1200whp. **** I wouldn't mind seeing 1200 just to the crank. You have no clue what-so-ever. Your post should be deleted by a mod......
But back to helping the OP, with: "B18c bottom end stock with arp rod bolts, fully built head, full race turbo kit with ramhorn and 67trim" as a setup, the Pro2s will work fine if tuned properly. Usually you won't have as much midrange as a GSR/ITR cam set at that hp level though. What size 67trim, you mean T67? Is it T3/T4 or straight T4?
Last edited by DC-2uned; Jan 19, 2010 at 07:09 PM.
One big thing you forgot to mention is the type of Turbo Manifold used makes a huge difference in what cams will work and what wont.... you should not run Pro-1's with a log manifold........
BTW Tuner2's are basically Pro-1's and will make similar numbers but the 2's have semi-stock low cam lobes and will make less power Pre-VTEC vs the Pro-1's.
BTW Tuner2's are basically Pro-1's and will make similar numbers but the 2's have semi-stock low cam lobes and will make less power Pre-VTEC vs the Pro-1's.
Sorry buddy just got his turbo kit he order from a member here. The turbo is a Garrett 63 hotside, 60 intake side, T3 flange. Car is supposed to be tuned Saturday morning on E85.
Will post results.
Will post results.
Depending on the ratio of exhaust pressure to intake pressure, it seems much more plausible that you'd be having the opposite problem. I'd think that with a lot of cam like this you'd really NEED an extremely good flowing hot side of the turbo (wheel and housing).
Overlap is overlap, no matter what hotside you have. IIRC Miller picked up 200whp on his car after he swapped out to smaller cams,,,,,
lol, nobody said his car wont run with them..... I bet you would of made alot more power with smaller cams. Was 38psi the max boost that you could get out of your setup?
Do us a favor and post your dyno sheet at 38psi.
Do us a favor and post your dyno sheet at 38psi.
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