Have any of you had any experience with D2 Coilovers on their S? I had a set back in the day on my Del Sol and they performed better than my first gen Omni's and about as well as my Buddy Club coilovers. They are as adjustable as any other high end coilover, the construction seemed pretty good and the spring rates can be ordered to what you want.

Do you think they will do as well on the S as they did for me on the Del Sol or should I just stick with the tried and true Koni/GC setup?

I plan on doing a few track day events as well as auotX whenever possible, so they will be used.

What are some other options that some of you would recommend. I have no need for super high end race setups. I would be throwing money down the drain because they would be used mostly for DD and SOME track use.

 

I have a set of D2 coilovers on my S. I don't drive my car much so I can't give you too much feedback. They do ride fine however and lower my car to the stance I want, but honestly I bought them cause they're purple.

 

what spring rates do you have?

 

Referring to the D2s as a "high end coilover" is like referring to Wal-Mart as a specialty boutique. The Koni 8041-Sport damper is superior to the D2 damper for most applications, and I don't consider the 8041-Sport to be a particularly high-end part.

I'm not particularly keen on fixed-stroke coilovers either. They may tell you that you can "order whatever spring rates you want," but it's a lot easier to make claims about it than it is to make it actually function properly in practice.

 

I never said that they were high end.

I asked if they were worth dropping my money on or not.....and if they aren't, what would you recommend aside from the Koni setup. I want something that will perform decently for a weekend track car and DD. I don't have the need to do competitive racing so going ***** out on Moton's are a waste of time for me since 95% of the time the car will be driving on the highways.

I guess that was too hard?

 

You implied it.

(Which, BTW, they aren't - have you seen the dyno charts? The D2/K-sport damper adjustments are crap).

No, unless you enjoy owning crap. Apparently you do based on your previous damper selections.

What can you spend?

With a select few exceptions, I generally don't recommend anything other than Bilstein or Koni for value. There are various reasons for this including but not limited to available valving/adjustments, build quality, setup familiarity, parts availability, and product support (warranty, rebuilds/revalves, etc.). Tokico Illuminas will work for a sporty application if you're extremely cheap (in which case I have no idea why you'd have an S2000), but Illuminas dont really cost much less than 8041-Sports.

Who said anything about Moton?

I'd go with a set of Koni 2812s over Motons anyway, but that's a different topic entirely.

Why do you even need coilovers? What's wrong with the car as-is?

This sort of thing has been discussed countless times over. I suppose searching is too hard? (Hint: There is a Suspension forum. I know this because I moderated it years ago.)

 

i wouldnt...they're cheap...i personally have no problem paying more money for parts that are quality made and have that reputation...D2 doesnt have either one of those...save the 800 dollars and put it towards a better set of coilovers...i actually lucked out and got a brand new, never been used set of Tein flexes for $1000 on craigslist...you just gotta look

 

I did search, found nothing pertaining to my question. Everybody seems to want race setups.

My previous selections have not all been crap. Buddy Clubs do fine for a number of people in Honda Challenge

Moton's are great and I feel they are FAR superior to some sealed shock units that Koni makes. Porsche and Ferrari teams world wide cannot all be wrong.

As-is is a no go for what I am after. I will be seeing some track time, at both road racing and drag (VERY rarely at the drag strip) on top of my street driving. I want to be able to corner balance my car, I also need adjustable ride height.

The amount I am willing to spend is not really a question. I am willing to drop upwards of $1k no problem as long as it is a worthwhile investment with enough flexibility to suit my applications with adequate quality and support.

 

i got bilsteins and they are great...

 

The D2 is a very one dimensional coilover. You might do OK on body control on smooth surfaces...for everything else....they're garbage.

The ride quality over time is going to be garbage. I've said it time and time again about D2s. I'd rather just take the $800 or whatever they cost..and throw it in the trash rather than having to go through the middle step of installing the coilovers just to put them in the trash a few months later.

I remember my friend bought D2s even though I told him not to. The only person who hated them more than me was him. The damper adjustments seemed to do either nothing...or do the opposite of what you were actually doing...or sometimes they'd adjust the right way for certain settings. It was like playing pin the tail on the damper setting.

The ride quality SUCKED. SUCKED is a kind word.

I know your car is only a DD and you'll only do occasional track use. That shouldn't stop you from buying something quality. Ride quality, longevity, fit, and damper adjustability is important if you plan on actually driving the car anywhere.

If this was a show car that you just wanted to dump regardless of ride quality...I'd give you a thumbs up on the D2s because I'd hate to see a decent brand go to waste.

If you wanna spend a little bit of money, I can def. recommend the KW V3s. It's what I have. The car is plenty low and it rides SOOOOOOOo good. It's firm but controlled. It soaks up bumps, but keeps the car completely planted on the track or the street. Body roll is minimal. They ride RIDICULOUSLY good for a coilover that controls the body roll so well.

I don't know about other setups. It seems that Buddy club makes a decent coilover for a decent price. Skunk2 makes a decent coilover for a decent price....but they're a bit on the soft side. The Koni/GC is a decent setup...but honestly, it's not as good as a nice coilover.

I street drive and track my S2000 and I love my KW V3s. They have independent rebound and bump adjustments (although the factory settings are more than nice). They have helper springs with linear 9 or 9.5k springs all around. They're stainless and can withstand a lot of abuse. I think the dampers come with a lifetime warranty. They're made/engineered in germany. Etc. etc. etc. I love em.

 

I am currently running espiler spring with koni yellow shocks. I'll be upgrading to ground controls soon to compliment my koni yellows. I do not track my car at all, so I think the koni/gc setup is good for the DD s2000.

 

Thanks for the response B, I will keep that in mind when making my selection. I like the independent adjustability.

 

Im glad i did not guy a set of D2's for my car as i was thinking about it.

 

I just installed a set of 8041 Koni yellows with 440 front and 380 rear spring rates. I bought the set from GC with the top hats. All I had to do was remove the stockers on my 07 and put the Konis on. I run non-staggered 245/40/17 all around, hence the front higher spring rate. The car is lower than stock bu 0.5 inch up front and 0.75 inch in the rear.

The ride is fantastic. Dare I say better than stock due to the compression set-up on the konis vs. the stock set-up. I have the rebound on the front at 3/4 turn stiff from soft and the rear at 1/2 a turn stiff from stock.

The cost was $1299 for everything.

What Targa told you was correct. Either Koni or Bilstein if you are on a budget. All the other dampers that you mentioned are crap.

 

$1299? Meh. You can find KWs for a few hundred more. Or atleast you could back when I bought them. I got my V3s for $1600...I got a STEAL on them because I'm friendly with a shop owner. But still. I saw a bunch going for $1700-1800 shipped IIRC.

 

1700-1800 is the price I have seen as well. We will see. I am putting a few things on hold for the time being. Just got a new job today so I have to focus on that for a while.

 

Agreed on Koni or Bilstien if you are on a budget.

Japanese dampers are just for hard parking unless custom valved. Anecdotal racing successes with Japanese shocks are accomplished despite their limitations, in a JDM series with similar dampers, and/or custom valved. If you just park, get anything.

Best dampers come from US or Europe, especially Germany. If you don't spend the money on those, there's no reason not to buy Koni or Bilstien in the $600-$900 range.

 

i have buddy club N+ spec coilovers on my s2k, and love em. id consider them one of the best bang for the buck. i might have them for sale soon since im selling my car

 

ive seen, ridden in, drove on, the kw V3s and i must say that they compliment the S real well...it was a spirited run, but i had tons of fun in that car.

ive seen a few sets on s2ki go for about 1300 bucks with maybe some room to wiggle...

 

There's a used set on S2KI right now for $1300.

 

Like said previously, it will be a month or two before I do anything to the car. I just got a new job and I have to focus on that for a while.

 

still doesnt hurt to shop now to see what type of pricing your going to be looking at...im not ready to purchase till probably feb but im scouring for good deals and avg prices on used items...

 

Yeah, I am definitely doing that, but I cannot commit to buying a set of second hand coilovers when I don't even know when I will be ready to buy them.

I don't mind purchasing a used set as long as they are in good shape and have low miles on them. With a quality set, it shouldn't really be all that big of a problem if they are used.

The most important things I would like to do to the car in the future is to get a nice set of wheels with decent tires (Azenis or some Dunlop's), upgrade the braking system, upgrade the suspension and look into some adjustable sway bars.

After that, who knows. I do have pipe dreams of converting it to iVTEC whenever it becomes available and maybe boosting it with low psi on stock internals. Like I said though, this would just be my pipe dream with the car. I want it to still be reliable.

 

:shootsmyselfintheface:

 

Trade me that hardtop and I will get you coil-overs... I told you that