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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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I bought this car and planned on doing quite a bit of body work. Here is what I have found after a little sanding....At least it's not clipped.

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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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So what are you trying to show here? That there was a dent and someone used bodyfiller to fix it? Pointless without more info.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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I guess it's a little hard to see in the pics, the body filler is over the paint.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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That's not a real big deal, it all depends how big the dent is and with all the new technology you don't really have to grind it to bare metal to put body filler aka BONDO
like I said before it all depends on the size of the damage.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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i agree that bondo is one way to go, but. the right way to fix is to weld so you know it will last
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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Weld? wtf are you talking about? Stud Gun? Applying body filler over factory paint that is properly prepped is fine. He already said he planned on doing quite a bit of bodywork. So why is this a shock lol
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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eventually that filler will start to crack
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MilanoEj1
eventually that filler will start to crack
How so? As long as the surface under it was prepped fine it'll be fine.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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nice job, you sanded down to the metal to undo body work that previously done the correct way this forum is probably the only forum on the internet where people take advice on how to fix a car from people who paint their cars with cans of rustoleum from home depot. Then they wonder why hondas get such a bad rap because they always look like ****, sound like ****, and drive like ****.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MilanoEj1
eventually that filler will start to crack
no, its not, not unless its mixed wrong, stud guns are a shitty way of pulling dents, and they cause rust behind the panels, you want to start doing professional body work, you invest in the proper and most up to date tools.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 01:29 AM
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With all due respect the only way I would've sanded that far was if I was doing a resto on it. I would take it to bare metal to block and redo all bodywork on it.

Unless you're doing that, you're wasting your time...
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 02:42 AM
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Unless metal work has to be done there is no reason to apply filler to bare metal. Think about it... what is stuck to the car better than the factory paint that is etched into the pores of the metal?
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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If you saw the car in person you would understand. The filling job was so bad you could see how uneven it was. As I was sanding the filler I kept uncovering air pockets in the filler. Just wait I'll have more pics wait until you see the fenderwells. I am completely restoring this car. I am taking all of the old filler out and putting in new. This car looks like they put filler on and just hit with a grader and didn't bother sanding. And now I personally don't believe in putting filler over old paint. You can prep the paint but that doesn't mean you have all the oils and moisutre out of it.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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if anything, it should be pointed out that there are a ton of layers of paint on there, good thing you're re-doing it.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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guess you should have posted better pics then. Because what I can see other than the milage being to thick is typical
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Yes the whole car has been repainted before I got it. It looks worse than maaco. They did do a good job of taping though.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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To everyone who thinks this is normal. This is what it looks like after paint. This is around the fenderwell this time but is the same scenario as above.


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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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ppl were saying the bodyfiller in your first pics looked normal and it does. You didnt include much info or any other pics for anyone to go by. You have to be more specific bro
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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this is a Lol thread
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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well, for all you guys defending bondo, im confused. the least amount of that **** on your car, the better. even if it is ratio'd right, the atmosphere usually gets the best of body filler. its just a matter of time. now that you said there were air pockets, thats a definate. panel replacements a better way to go, but not everyone has that option. im just not a fan of body filler, no matter how much it is. bondo doesnt fix dents, it covers them up and makes way more work later....
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LS-turboner
well, for all you guys defending bondo, im confused. the least amount of that **** on your car, the better. even if it is ratio'd right, the atmosphere usually gets the best of body filler. its just a matter of time. now that you said there were air pockets, thats a definate. panel replacements a better way to go, but not everyone has that option. im just not a fan of body filler, no matter how much it is. bondo doesnt fix dents, it covers them up and makes way more work later....
thats because you dont understand how to do body work
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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This thread is getting ridiculous. A whole lot of misinformation
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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yeah, first thing i noticed was the number of times the car was painted over. too many layers of paint and the stuff will flake off easily

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thats because you dont understand how to do body work
theres nothing wrong with using body filler if you know how to use it properly

yes you should put filler on bare metal, this is what i was taught in school anyway. but ive heard of people getting away with putting it over scuffed paint too.

if you have a bad dent, you can fix most of it by using a hammer and dolly on the bare metal but it won't be perfect. this is what body filler is for (minor imperfections - big imperfections then you should replace the panel if you can). if you lay it on thin.. block sand the body filler then put polyester glazing putty on that then block the polyester.. if you know what your doing then your work will last a long time.


to use bodyfiller properly you want to put it on as thin as you can, then seal it to keep moisture away from it. bodyfiller is not waterproof and can absorb water and crack (also if the filler is too thick then the vibrations of normal vehicle driving can crack it over time). to seal it from weather just put epoxy primer over it or primer sealer, then your basecoat clearcoat.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziprock
theres nothing wrong with using body filler!

yes you should put filler on bare metal, this is what i was taught in school anyway. but ive heard of people getting away with putting it over scuffed paint too.

if you have a bad dent, you can fix most of it by using a hammer and dolly on the bare metal but it won't be perfect. this is what body filler is for (minor imperfections - big imperfections then you should replace the panel if you can). if you lay it on thin.. block sand the body filler then put polyester glazing putty on that then block the polyester.. if you know what your doing then your work will last a long time.


to use bodyfiller properly you want to put it on as thin as you can, then seal it to keep moisture away from it. bodyfiller is not waterproof and can absorb water and crack (also if the filler is too thick then the vibrations of normal vehicle driving can crack it over time).
to seal it from weather just put epoxy primer over it or primer sealer, then your basecoat clearcoat.
well i can agree with most of that
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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This guy isnt asking how to do bodywork lol. Everyone does things a lil diff\
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