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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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I have installed two brand new axles(90 integra non-abs) and have a problem with them being to tight and causing shaking and noises. I have searched and still do not have a decent answer to what axles to use.

I changed both of them because of the boots being split and clicking around corners. I bought two axles and installed both, also removed both dust sheilds for the 90 integra axles. Both are making noise so I took them back and got two more. This time I bought two new axles not remans. Anyway the noise when away on the passenger side(drivers side for LHD) but it's slightly there on the passenger side. I have a S1 transmission code and have the stock intermediate shaft that came with the car.

What should i use for an axle? I read all kinds about swapping parts from and 89 intergra to the 90 axle. What is the proper axles? The problem is only on the passenger side now which is my drives side.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Nothin eh? Anyway lets say my car isan't RHD and I have b16 swap with b-series spindles. I have a problem with my passenger side axle being to tight and causing all kinds of banging and shaking.

I installed a brand new(not reman) 90 integra non abs axle. Twice now and both are the same. The drivers side is fine. So what are you guys using for a passenger side axle?
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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I'm not 100% sure but you may need to have an intermediate shaft from an integra in order to run the integra axles. I know that when I ordered my axles from Hasport I had to provide them with a casting number off my intermediate shaft so I know there are some differences or they would not have requested that info from me. Hope that helps and good luck
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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I am using that stock intermediate shaft that came in the car. This also would not effect the passenger side would it? I don't get it. I have stock SiR with stock everything and i can't get axles that work properly....

When I grab the drivers side axle shaft while in the car there is some movement when i push or pull it in and out of the joints which is normal. Now on the passenger side(my problem area) when i grab the axle shaft there is no movement at all that's why is binding. This is the 3rd axle and nothing has changed.

There is a million people that have swapped this engine into there ef's so someone must have an answer to what axle they used.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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i hope u took the dust rings from inside of the hub i had the same problem with the axle
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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both dust rings are gone.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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If i was to take the axle out and remove the outer c/v joint and grind some of the axle shaft, what part would i take the metal off to make it not bind. Would I grind some of the end of the axle and file out the splines again.

Or grind out the inside of the c/v joint? The car is my winter car and right now is my only daily driver. I need this car and i work everday, I don't have time to deal with swapping axles everyday!! Has anyone ever modified and axle that was to long before?
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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I haven't but can you do that with one having to go into the intermediat shaft? The splines are shorter onthe passenger side.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 03:57 AM
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welcome to the rhd crx, i've got one as well, its a PIA. The engine in the crx sir sits slightly to the right then if you swap a b16 into a LHD crx si. So on your left side (passenger in the rhd car) you need to get an intermediate shaft from a 90-93 integra and use a 90-93 integra drivers side axle.

On your right side (driver side on the rhd car) if a 90-93 integra axle doesn't work for you with the dust ring removed then try an 89 integra axle, its a bit shorter. If the 89 integra axle is too short, then you have to make a hybrid axle out of the 89 and 90-93 (i believe its the 89 axle with the 90-93 inner joint)...or call raxles and they will make one for you.

PS - here's a few other parts that don't match up to a north american crx:

- brakes are from a 90-93 integra
- sway bar end links are from a 87-89 acura legend coupe (coupe only, 4 dr had different ones)
- air filter doesn't match up to anything here, i special ordered a K&N air filter for a non-us crx vtec, K&N part number: 33-2061
- struts are from an 88 crx si
- if you have problems with the alt, ps, ac belts shoot me a PM. I have the info at home from what vehicle i got those from

For other parts you can check out the part number for the EF8 here http://www.crxsi.com/jdm/

Then cross-reference it here for the north american part (sometimes from crx/civic, integra, prelude or legend)
http://www.bkhondaparts.com/billkay/jsp/home.jsp
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/jsp/catdisplay.jsp

also, join crxontario.com, there's a few of us with rhd crx sir that all have the same issues so this info gets shared
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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Wow, thats the info I was looking for!!! I will try an axle from an 89 today and see if i works. Thanks so much.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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Alright so I installed the 89 axle and it fit no problem and wasen't to short. I went for the test drive and it's find going straight up to about 60 then is starts to thump. Taking right turn going about 20 is binds up to. I don't know what to do.

I called the guy i bought it from and he said that 3rd gear was grinding so he replaced the trans with one from a 90-93 integra, great. He said he just changed the trans and used the stock intermediate shaft. The tranny sticker tag says S1 so does this have anything to do with my problem? Should i change inner or outer joints to the 90-93 again and use the shorter 89 axle shaft?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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I have a 90-93 integra tranny installed in my car so could the rear trans mount be different or are they the same as the b16 tranny mount. If my engine is sitting crooked because of a tranny mount being different that would cause a axle bind situation wouldn't it. I didn't install the tranny so i don't know if they used the b16 mount or the integra or are they interchangable? I don't know. My engine doesn't look crooked so who know.

So are the b16/b18 rear tranny mounts different?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Are you sure its your right side (driver rhd) causing the problem? If it happens when you turn right then normally it would be the left side that would bind from being too long.

when going straight
|---|

turning right (right axle is stretched out, left axle is pushed in)
/---/

turning left (right axle is pushed in, left axle is stretched out)
\---\

you'd be more likely to get a binding problem when the axle is pushed in. If you have a 90-93 teg axle with an ef8 half shaft (longer than the 90-93 teg half shaft) you would get a binding problem on the left side.

89 teg axle on the right side (driver rhd) should definitely not be too long.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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try a different half shaft off a 90-93 integra ans non-abs axles from those years. i have a 89 si hatch and i swaped an ls wit b16 tranny and i used 92 integra axles and half shaft just make sure u use the left axle on the right one on the right . also if ur car is slammed it might cause it to bind on the turns. also dont tighten the axle nuts to tight .oh also check ur wheel hubs where the axle splines go in ans make sure there isnt any missing or damaged .
hope tht helps
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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oh and u might need a new mount in the rear like one from hasport or place racing i would find sum place racing ones they place the motor alittle higher then the hasport ones so u wont damage ur oil pan
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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My car is a jdm car so it has the correct mounts already. I almost have to problem worked out. On the left side I swapped out my sir intermediate shaft(sh3) and installed a 90 integra shaft(sk7 i think) and the matching axle on the left side and the binding is gone on that side.

On the right side i have installed an 89 integra axle and it is a little to short. I'm going to try a 90 integra axle again on the right side again since taking care of the problem on the left side. If that doesn't work i'm going to use the 89 axle with the 90 inner joint and hope this take care of my problems. I will update this when i fix the problem so if anyone else out there with an EF8 SiR searches this it might save them the weeks that i've spent trying to find good info.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 02:49 AM
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I been having the same problem for a year with the car shaking and ect.. I did the same got two new axles because of ripped boots! Bad idea. I should have just bought new boots and replaced them. Anyways your problem is Store brand axles IE autozone, ect..

There all about 1/2'' to short than OEM. I had oems on my car it ran perfect, switched them out and it started shaking. How to fix it go to honda and buy new OEM DA axles which are the correct lenght. Or find a da in the junk yard with the oem axles. Oh alot you can tell is they have a green and orange stripe on them.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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^^^traxxasx do have have a factory EF8/9? Cause if you have a LHD civic/crx with a swap it's not gonna be the same. If you do have a real sir than i could try oem axles. I work at a honda dealer and am a journeymen mechanic.... Everyone at work just says buy a regular car and you won't being going through this nightmare to stop destroying axles.

Today i swaped in the 90 teg axle on the right side and it was binding. So i removed it and installed the 90 inner joint on the 89 teg axle. It works so much better and does not bind at all. I do have a new problem since swapping in the used 90 teg intermediate shaft. When coasting at around 60-80km/h it makes a thumping sound like a flat spot on my tire. Now the axles might be fixed but i still have this thumping noise that started when swapping shafts.

Anyway it's another trip to the junkyard and find another intermediate shaft!!!
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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glad the 89/90 combo worked out, crappy deal about the intermediate shaft.
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