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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Had a pass. side axle pop out of the tranny today out of nowhere. I wasn't even making a turn, was goin straight, 5th gear about 60 MPH, then the RPM's just dropped to idle and car wouldn't move anymore. Pulled over, sure enough pass. side axle was popped out. The teeth in the diff are perfect, so were the teeth on the axle. Any ideas what could have caused it? It was a brand new axle from Autozone, looked identicle to the OEM axle except my oem boots were torn.

I noticed the car was pulling a bit to the right this morning before the axle popped out, and even after I replaced it with a new axle, the car seems to be pulling a bit to the right still. Car was just aligned about 2 weeks ago, so I don't know what's up.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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Was the snap/clip ring on the end of the new axle?
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Was the snap/clip ring on the end of the new axle?
still it shouldnt pop out
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crxagogo
Was the snap/clip ring on the end of the new axle?
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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still it shouldnt pop out
Shouldn't, but after installing a "snap ring-less" axle from Advance Auto in a CRX I know that it is possible........swapped axle for one with a snap ring and the problem was solved.....not that it couldn't be something else
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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when u pop the axle back in
does it have any play in and out
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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Yes, the snap ring/clip was installed, and it snapped in good into the diff. when I installed it. The axle didn't have any play when I yanked on the shaft.
Would my prothane mount inserts have anything to do with it? Excessive vibration?
What I'm starting to suspect is that the axle was a bit shorter than OEM, so it would make sense to me that the inner end of the axle would pop out of the diff since the outer side of the axle is torqued down to the wheel hub with the 32mm nut.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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i woudl too assume ur axle is too short but u said no play tha it cant be
try truning the steering wheel and checking still should be in the trans
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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i had the same problem with an axle in my old del sol...it ended up being that the retaining clip was worn out. it would pop in the tranny and wouldn't give any when i yanked on it, but at around 55-60 mph, sure enough it would pop right back out. replaced that clip with one from honda and didn't have the problem again.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Not sure why a 2 week old snap ring with under 1,000 miles would be worn out already?
This really concerns me, since it's my daily driver and I do drive alot while on the job, I can't afford to get stranded while on the job. Car is even at stock height.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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yeah, definitely doesn't sound like you had the same problem that i had, if the snap ring isn't that old
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by all-mtr-teg
Not sure why a 2 week old snap ring with under 1,000 miles would be worn out already?
This really concerns me, since it's my daily driver and I do drive alot while on the job, I can't afford to get stranded while on the job. Car is even at stock height.
you have to remember its an autozone axle, they arent brand new they are remanufactured. The only reason i still buy autozone axles on my car is b/c its a lifetime warrenty. I would say try replacing the ring hopefully its that, worse comes to worse just exchange it for another one.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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you have to remember its an autozone axle, they arent brand new they are remanufactured. The only reason i still buy autozone axles on my car is b/c its a lifetime warrenty. I would say try replacing the ring hopefully its that, worse comes to worse just exchange it for another one.
It was a brand new Duralast brand axle, the only remanufactured axles I would trust from Autozone are the Cardone brand. I would have gotten that instead of a new Duralast brand axle but it was a special order and would have taken 5 days cause of the weekend and I needed my car immediately. I'm gonna return this Duralast axle and get me a New Cardone axle from www.rockauto.com
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by all-mtr-teg
Not sure why a 2 week old snap ring with under 1,000 miles would be worn out already?
This really concerns me, since it's my daily driver and I do drive alot while on the job, I can't afford to get stranded while on the job. Car is even at stock height.
i only will use a snap ring once. i have no idea what changes but i swear they are just weird. i have never had a new ring come out but have had more than 1 reused one pop out. it usually is hell on the diff too since grinding of some sort takes place. i remember one gsr transmission that was considerably looser with axle play after a pop out. to the best of my knowledge it's still going but it was a stupid mistake when you consider how cheap those rings are. there is also a certain sound and feeling they make when they seat correctly. if you've done a few i'm sure you know just what i'm talking about.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Update,
My driver side lower ball joint nut somehow came off, and the ball joint popped out of the lower control arm and caused the lower control arm to slam on the road and leave me stranded in the middle of the road. Any idea what would be causing all these parts to vibrate loose? All I have are prothane mount inserts on all 5 mounts, not even full blown solid mounts. Anyone ever have this kind of issue with nuts and bolts vibrating loose after installing mount inserts? I've also got SPFab traction bars and the car was just aligned a few weeks ago. Help me out please
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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umm it just popped off, weird becaus etheir should have been a pin in it so the nut wont even come loose

i have and had solid mounts never had a problem, tq the nuts to spec or tighten them properly and u are fine. dont know why that would happene other than a loose nut in the first place or a stripped one and then not putting a pin though the bolt
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by v8killaz
umm it just popped off, weird becaus etheir should have been a pin in it so the nut wont even come loose

i have and had solid mounts never had a problem, tq the nuts to spec or tighten them properly and u are fine. dont know why that would happene other than a loose nut in the first place or a stripped one and then not putting a pin though the bolt
Exactly my thoughts. It had a brand new cotter pin, torqued to spec, and still fell off somehow. I'm gonna use some red loctite and torque it a few ft.lbs over spec this time around and see what happens. Still not sure why the axle popped out, im hoping it was just a defective axle. I'm replacing it with a better quality brand axle this time and hopefully that solves it.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:53 AM
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I've talked with an Acura dealership parts guy, he said that all 90-93 Integra's have different part numbers for their axles and its also according to LS, GS or GS-R AND IF ITS Auto or Manual transmission. I'm guessing that when Auto Zone re-manufactures them, they may not realize that they are working with say a 90 auto LS, and they label it a 92 Manual GS.

Maybe you might try to get the popped one replaced, but before you leave the store ask the sales guy to bring out a few re-manufactured ones, compare the length and go with the longest.

I don't drag race, but I have very recently bought Auto Zone axles for both sides and have only good things to say.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:59 AM
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Did you make sure the sxle was installed all the way in?
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Found out that both new axles that popped out, the ones I got from autozone, where about 1/2 to 5/8" shorter than stock length. I bought a brand new Cardone brand axle and it was longer than the autozone axles. I even compared it to a new masterpro brand axle from kragen and sure enough the autozone axles were shorter than the kragen axle as well. Sounds like Duralast, autozone's brand of parts, is making them too short now. I never had a problem like this when autozone carried cardone brand axles in the store, but when they switch out the cardone brand to carry their own duracrap brand, quality when down the drain.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by all-mtr-teg
Found out that both new axles that popped out, the ones I got from autozone, where about 1/2 to 5/8" shorter than stock length. I bought a brand new Cardone brand axle and it was longer than the autozone axles. I even compared it to a new masterpro brand axle from kragen and sure enough the autozone axles were shorter than the kragen axle as well. Sounds like Duralast, autozone's brand of parts, is making them too short now. I never had a problem like this when autozone carried cardone brand axles in the store, but when they switch out the cardone brand to carry their own duracrap brand, quality when down the drain.

Don't forget to account for the fact that not all Autozone employees are the brightest. I always double check the part number and compare with the old part before install. I've been handed the wrong spark plugs, brake rotors (the guy still didn't believe that ITR's came with 5lug), and few other little parts.

I've never had problems with the new axles from Autozone.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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I've never had problems with the new axles from Autozone.
That's good for you, but both the axles that popped out were brand new, not remanufactured.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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That's good for you, but both the axles that popped out were brand new, not remanufactured.
????? Reman or new, that wasn't your problem. It was the wrong size. You can get the wrong size in OEM, but you'd still have a problem.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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????? Reman or new, that wasn't your problem. It was the wrong size. You can get the wrong size in OEM, but you'd still have a problem.
I know reman or new doesn't matter. Both new duralast axles were too short, versus a reman Cardone and OEM axle, and a new Cardone were the right size.
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