Is anyone running this bar and what are your experiences with it?

 

Do they make one for the DC2?

 

ITR's have one from the factory.

 

That's why I thought it was odd they'd make one for the ITR.

I thought the target audience for those bars are 92-95 Civics who have removed the rear bumper support.

 

The strong bar and trunk brace are two different pieces.

When you remove the bumper support the holes that were once holding the bumper support in, are now used to bolt down the strong bar.

Two different pieces, probably for the same purposes though.

 

Someone should make aluminum pieces to replace the bumper supports on DC2.

If there is one, can someone send me a link or pic of it?


[Modified by Tommy_Gunns, 10:58 PM 9/3/2002]

 

Correct,anyone using this? Experiences with it good,bad,ugly?

 

Here's mine:


The strongbar is not the trunk bar on the ITR's. The BENEN Strongbar gives support during a rear-end collision so that you can safely remove the bumper support for weight reduction (-18 lbs). You can say that it also stiffens up the frame near the trunk because I had less chassis cracking noise after I installed the bar.



[Modified by Tony the Tiger, 11:44 AM 9/5/2002]

 

 

what did you buy Steve ???

ITR ??

 

So if you get this strong bar for the trunk then you can safely take out the bumber support. How much does this cost?????

 

 

You can safely remove the 18lbs of steel and install a 4lb piece of alum? No way. I would only remove the rear bumper if this is a DRAG car only. If you remove it, and get into a rear end collision, or even a side collision, the damage will be much worse vs if you leave the rear bumper on. Ohh, and the rear bumper is hidden incase you are wondering. The outside rubber/plastic part that everyone calls a bumper is just a 'bumper cover'.

its not safe to remove the rear bumper.

 

You can safely remove the 18lbs of steel and install a 4lb piece of alum? No way. I would only remove the rear bumper if this is a DRAG car only. If you remove it, and get into a rear end collision, or even a side collision, the damage will be much worse vs if you leave the rear bumper on. Ohh, and the rear bumper is hidden incase you are wondering. The outside rubber/plastic part that everyone calls a bumper is just a 'bumper cover'.

its not safe to remove the rear bumper.


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agreed, save weight somewhere else instead of removing the vital safety measures that are put there for a reason

 

The rear bumper support isn't as strong as you think... it's a piece of thin stamped steel that is good for a 5-10mph bash. During an accident, there is almost nothing to stop the car from crushing anyway... the trunk is supposed to crush so the driver won't get injured or killed from the G-forces. The bumper is there to minimize the repair costs from a minor accident. If you think it would save you from a severe rear-end collision, don't even think about it.

 

there is a reason Honda calls it the 5mph bumper. BTW I don't encourage taking it off and not replaceing it with anything.

Benen is bling, no more.
later

matt

 

I think it offers more support than you think. It really doesn't do much to keep the trunk from crushing, rather keeping the rear frame rails together in a serious accident from the rear, and offering resistance in a side collision. You can take yours out if you wish, but don't say I didn't warn you.

 

are Benen and SSR the same company? also, do either one of them make lower rear control arms for the R? mine are tweaked and all fawked up.

 

Yep, I don't encourage running with no bumper... By looking at the construction of the Benen bar, I don't see how it would be weaker than the stock piece of stamped steel. Hold the bar in your hands and you will know why. The Benen bar is carved out of one solid block of aluminum, so there are absolutely no welds or joints served as weak points. It's placed on the same bolts as the stock bumper support, so it should reinforce the car in the same means as the stock bumper.

 

you're driving a honda if you don't know if you get hit from the back no matter how hard with or without a bumper support you will get crinkles in the frame !!....

 

that was possibly the most confusing sentence, using sentence loosly, I have ever read. Could you use correct grammer so we can all understand?

Like I said, take out the bumper and see what happens in daily driving around a road course. You'll have a twisted rear sub frame. Ohh wait, not many of you even have a clue what a road course looks like. Drive on the street w/o the bumper is like asking for trouble. Take out the passanger seat if you want to save the 18lbs.

 

that must be why, after a moron ran into the back of my GSR at a stoplight and hit the left rear bumper support, i only had to replace the cover and the ABS support member under the cover and there was no frame damage or other issues. the morons truck bumper was flattened. I love uneducated responses to posts from idiots.. it thrills me to read them.

 

No, the Benen strongbar give the same reinforcement, if not, MORE reinforcement to the subframe. Possibly how could a spot welded piece of stamped steel give more reinforcement than the strong bar if you are talking about frame rigidity? Nobody here is taking off the bumper support and replace it with NOTHING. We are replacing it with the Benen strongbar.

 

OT: tony what kind of ITB's did u get?

 

I dont have the Benen strong bar but I just made my own out of alum. stock and got longer 12mm bolts. Works great, like a previous person said "less creeking sounds", but also seems to stiffen the back end a little.