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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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i need some opinions i have an ef with a b16a in it and i like the way it pulls but i am possibly able to get a h22a swap to put in my other ef. i want to kno if anyone likes one more than the other. please help me decide
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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H2b FTW!!

But your going to get alot of "what do you like?/What is your budget" questions so tell us that first
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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i have the b16a ef i might sell it to buy a prelude with a 40k h22a in it and i have another ef im building and when its done i wanna either keep my b16 or get the h22 so i wanna kno what people think which they like better. and ill take that and help me decide what i wanna do.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Please, don't waste you time with a Prelude.
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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If you go H22 Spend the money for a H2B kit. Those are awesome.

Or if you want to go all H22 check this thread out. Might answer your Q's.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/90-ef-hatch-h22-project-complete-2673810/
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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im just gonna buy the prelude for a daily till my efs done then pull the h22 and put it in my ef. i love civics just wanted the lude for the money cant beat the price for a daily untill the motor gets pulled
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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b16a all the way!!! i have one b16a and beat the crap out of it just maintained it right and still runs strong after 3 years.. plus b16a is way more jdm
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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k-series ftw
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by KOOCHYOLOGIST
k-series ftw
That wasn't one of the options.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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b16a just looks like it belongs in a 4th gen imo
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 88Hatchy
Please, don't waste you time with a Prelude.
there is nothing wrong with a prelude. Hate less please
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Personally I'd rather slap a JRSC or a turbo on that B16 vs. installing the H22. Just because it's already in there so theres no need to cut or weld. However, goin H2B is soo tempting tho.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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I can attest to the h2b being a whole lot of fun. Some cams, IM and a nice header will treat you right.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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If I'm not mistaken:

h22 (torque) > b16

I say go h22 route.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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B16's are the new D16's.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 09siref91
b16a all the way!!! i have one b16a and beat the crap out of it just maintained it right and still runs strong after 3 years.. plus b16a is way more jdm
you realize that H22a's are from the JDM 4th gen si prelude right? doesnt come in the USDM models.

Originally Posted by jakop92
If I'm not mistaken:

h22 (torque) > b16

I say go h22 route.
B16a siR 1

Power: 160ps (118 kW) @ 7,600rpm & 15.5kgm (152 Nm) @ 7,000rpm
Redline: 8100 RPM

H22a

Power: 197 hp) @ 6,800 rpm & 161.50 ft·lbf (218.96 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm

i'de say those numbers speak for themselves.

BUT its alot more expensive and difficult for a true H swap. and if you think about it, the money you'll spend on the H2B kit wont be saving you anything. for that price you can get an H tranny and custom linkage and axles. probably still have some left over.

I dont understand why an H22a costs LESS than a B16a...H22a's are waaaay more powerful in every way!
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Easy, supply and demand.

I'm lol'ing at all the people throwing out "just do an H2B" as if an H2B in a 4th gen is as simple as pulling the engine out and putting the H2B in.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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I'd say h22a.. pulls hella hard, especially in a civic! everybody and their great grandparents are running on b16s.. its gunna be a squeeze to work on but oh well..
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gibsanez
I'm lol'ing at all the people throwing out "just do an H2B" as if an H2B in a 4th gen is as simple as pulling the engine out and putting the H2B in.
It's really the same difficulty level as a b-series swap when it comes to mounts, axles, and wiring. You're not stepping too far over the 'bolt-on' line.

After that it's hitting the search button for hood clearance and the clutch/tranny (cable/hydro) info.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2point2
It's really the same difficulty level as a b-series swap when it comes to mounts, axles, and wiring. You're not stepping too far over the 'bolt-on' line.

After that it's hitting the search button for hood clearance and the clutch/tranny (cable/hydro) info.

You're forgetting cross member clearance, alt. bracket relocation, crank pulley clearance, radiator hoses, etc. It's not a swap where you pull the old engine/trans out and put the H2B in.

It's just funny to see people say "Just do an H2B, they're sweet!", kind of like if someone saying "just throw a K in there"
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:40 AM
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Mr. catinthehat

The OP said h22 or b16?

I take in mind that he knows the severity of each swap.

H2B FTW
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 05:03 AM
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The OP is asking if anyone likes one more than the other. It's a very broad and "new" question. I seriously doubt he knows what you have to do to put an H2B in a 4th gen.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gibsanez
The OP is asking if anyone likes one more than the other. It's a very broad and "noob" question. I seriously doubt he knows what you have to do to put an H2B in a 4th gen.
Fixed lol

I get what you mean now.

Well b16 is as easy as wiring, mounts, shift linkage, throttle cable and axles

h22/B install level is more involved
frame rail has to be modified balancers have to be removed crank pulley gets modified along with the above mentioned.
If you go with the h22trans then shift cables get installed....etc.

yea. catinthehat is right.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 4g4dcruisin
you realize that H22a's are from the JDM 4th gen si prelude right? doesnt come in the USDM models.



B16a siR 1

Power: 160ps (118 kW) @ 7,600rpm & 15.5kgm (152 Nm) @ 7,000rpm
Redline: 8100 RPM

H22a

Power: 197 hp) @ 6,800 rpm & 161.50 ft·lbf (218.96 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm

i'de say those numbers speak for themselves.

BUT its alot more expensive and difficult for a true H swap. and if you think about it, the money you'll spend on the H2B kit wont be saving you anything. for that price you can get an H tranny and custom linkage and axles. probably still have some left over.

I dont understand why an H22a costs LESS than a B16a...H22a's are waaaay more powerful in every way!


H22 DID come in usdm preludes dude. Just like the del sol got the B16.

its the Vtec model. DO your homework, and you don't need custom linkage either.
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