do you think i need one? yay or nay?
im on h&r sports, 1.75 front and 1.5 rear

 

In your case, I would get one. Your camber difference between the two front wheels is 1 degree. And to add to that, the front right is almost -3 degrees. If you really cannot afford to get the camber kit, then you will be fine with just an alignment. But with one wheel at -1.8, and the other at -2.7, your handling will be off, and one wheel will have more camber wear than the other down in a couple thousand miles. If you can afford the $140 bucks for a front set of UCA's, then get them and equal out the two front camber angles to just over -1 degree. Your tires will last longer and your handling will be restored.

 

the rear will be fine though wont it?

 

no.

 

Care to explain?

The rear is up to you. They are within acceptable limits of negative camber to run without a camber kit in my opinion. And they are close enough together that handling wont be affected that much. The kits for the rear are usually the bolt type ones, and I have heard that they are not that great. They are pretty cheap though, so if you can spare the cash I would go get a camber kit for front and rear. That way you can balance out the camber for better handling and longer tire life.

When I lowered my car about 2 inches I only got a front camber kit. The guy who was aligning my car told me not to even worry about the rear camber. I took his advice. 2 years and over 15k miles later my rear tires are still just fine, with no signs of camber wear.

 

you dont need camber kits. "camber wear" is a misnomer. its not camber that wears tires.

you can search or read the sticky if you want more explanation.

the alignment is fine. a little bit of toe out is better for performance.


both of you are new around here huh?

 

I've never used a camber kit and I wish I had a pic of my tires after 15k miles. they weren't bald on the inside. toe was set to 0

 

Obviously you are both mistaken. The type of wear that im talking about is not toe wear. Toe wear is when the inside or outside edge wears down like this:



The kind of wear that happens from camber only is this:



This is not the best example, but you can clearly see that the tire is worn down at an angle. This type of wear comes from too much negative camber. This is what I am talking about, not toe wear.

Actually, too much camber will wear tires, but not like toe wear. Take a look at the picture above. Congrats you learned something today.

What size wheels/tires are you running? People have reported that thinner tires such as 40's or 45's tend to show camber wear more than the taller tires like 50 or 55. And once again, the wear that I am talking about does not happen on the inside, that is toe wear.

 

So, how much negative camber is too much?

And, depending on the answer, how does this car manage to not suffer from "camber wear", even though it has ran -4.8* of rear camber (the drive wheels) for the past 16 years that I've owned it? (Yes, its a little hard to see the camber angle because of how curved the lower body is.)



Granted, they're "balloon" tires, but that camber is considered excessive by most people (even though it is actually within the manufacturers specification)...

I'm also curious how someone who understands tires can think its ok to discuss the aspect ratio of a tire without regard to the section width. Both a 205/50-15 and a 275/35-15 have about the same amount of sidewall...

 

which looks horrible? and which looks like you can barely see any uneven wear?

nice try.

you dont need camber kits.

 

Like I said its a bad example. But still, you cannot sit there and say he doesnt need to even out the front camber to restore handling.

 

keep STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING.. ..

do not need. youd be lucky to get wear like that over the full life of a tire.

camber is not responsible for tire wear (that ppl most often complain about).

thanks, the pics you used show this. lol.

 

well its settled, no kits, and an extra 150 bucks in my pocket