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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Default OBD0 engine management, anything better than TurboEdit?

Ive been out of the scene for 2 years, got hard into audio. Anyways, Ive got a built d16a6, forged block, tons of headwork, crane cam, was running a T3 .60/.63 @ 15-18psi on dms 450's, on OBD0

I was doing tuning with Turboedit, had a twintec wideband, and was just burning chips and going.

Has there been any newer programs out for OBD0?? I will have to buy a new wideband Id believe as the twintec has been sitting for 2 years.

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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not that i know of, i believe its just turboedit and zdyne for the obd-o stuff. everyone usually goes obd-1.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:33 AM
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Hands down, the AEM 1080 box. Top of the line, and if you have a hard time finding one, PM me for some pricing.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bisimoto
Hands down, the AEM 1080 box. Top of the line, and if you have a hard time finding one, PM me for some pricing.
I didn't realize the AEM 1080 series ECU's were Honda OBD0 Rom editors. Learn something every day...



OP - TurboEdit is the best ODB0 solution, however you should consider upgrading to OBD1 if you want some extra tuning options.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:44 AM
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lol...just trying to offer a better "plug n'play" tuning solution with tons of options and no need to burn chips.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Thanks bisi I appreciate that, Id never heard of it

Ill def do some research on it and see how I like it, I used turboedit before with success, but its a bit primitive for my new setup
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Im using a new version of zdyne yes (zdyne). This version has data loging and data trace works great. If you contact bill at zdyne he will give you more details.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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I heard the zdyne is in the area of a grand though

Im in the same area as you (im like 20 min west of toronto) so you know how hard pressed tuning is, so Im stuck doing everything on my own. Datalogging would be GREAT as Ive never had that before.

Im used to just doing a rip down a backroad and trying to keep an eye on a/f's on my non backlit wideband lol
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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turboedit is great and easy to use. thats how i started out. went damn near 11s on a stock ls engine on a street tune i did with TE.

but when i went obd1... definitely worth it. crome free rocked compared to TE. heh.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Just upgrade to obd1. all it takes is an ecu and distributor and reiwre the dizzy plugs. very simple stuff and then there are ALOT more choices from freeware to payware

crome, crome pro, ectune, neptune rtp, hondata line etc..
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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I wont be "upgrading" to obd1 for a non vtec motor. This is a fairly budget build, and the extra hassle and $500+ price tag to "upgrade" isnt worth it. I made the thread asking for obd0 options

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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i have a Zydne Gold SECU if you interested...cheap
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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i forgot about the aem box, that came out after i went obd-1. i think the hard thing with aem is the expense first, plus i've read about lots of issues when using the stock honda dizzy, which leads you to the aem cop setups or the T1 trigger setups, etc... starts to add up fast.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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last time i checked an obd1 ls dizzy can be had for 50-75 bucks and an ecu is about the same and crome is free so where do you get 500+ ????????

if you want good tuning then obd1 is nessesary or spending big money on a standalone, were just trying to help so lose the attitude
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Lol I thought the same thing when I dumped 600 on that junk *** zdyne they sell big promises but it does not deliver. Best thing I did for that car was to convert it to obd1 and the price was under 200. Ill do you one better PM if your interested in a obd1 non vtec dizzy for cheap just to get you started the rest is cake.....
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Default Re: OBD0 engine management, anything better than TurboEdit?

I've tuned my N/A setup with BRE. I know it supports boost. I am surprised no one else has mentioned it.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Default Re: OBD0 engine management, anything better than TurboEdit?

Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
last time i checked an obd1 ls dizzy can be had for 50-75 bucks and an ecu is about the same and crome is free so where do you get 500+ ????????

if you want good tuning then obd1 is nessesary or spending big money on a standalone, were just trying to help so lose the attitude
Im in a different country than you, and I wouldnt be buying a used dizzy, new or nothing, $200 easy. Chipped ECu is not $50, conversion harness is not $50, extra wiring involved.. etc not worth it

People keep mentionned BRE, I cant find a download for it though. I'll check out pgmfi.org, but I cant find crap on this program.

Id like to compare it to turboedit
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Well arent you just difficult if your hell bent on staying obd0 I want to say that they recently updated TE so try to find the most recent update and go from there
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:29 AM
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BRE... ive tried it. turboedit is a lot easier.

and if you are running around a d16a6 with a forged bottom end and a big cam it would be cool to buy a $40 obd1 sohc non vtec distributor, $50 conversion harness, and a $100 ecu and chip it and run crome free or even uberdata. you can sell your mpfi obd0 dizzy and chipped obd0 ecu.

or just stick with TE.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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BRE beats turboedit. Just get ostrich and datalog cable, put settings up and start tuning. U can log wideband afr and autotune vacuum map, autotune boostmap is not good idea. But its easy to tune with wideband and map trace. I use bre with dohc zc and 680cc pte injectors and gm3bar.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Vagitarian
Im in a different country than you, and I wouldnt be buying a used dizzy, new or nothing, $200 easy. Chipped ECu is not $50, conversion harness is not $50, extra wiring involved.. etc not worth it

People keep mentionned BRE, I cant find a download for it though. I'll check out pgmfi.org, but I cant find crap on this program.

Id like to compare it to turboedit
just read this now, missed it before my last post.

ive never owned a new dist. hah never a problem ever.. but people want what they want.

what country are you in?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bisimoto
lol...just trying to offer a better "plug n'play" tuning solution with tons of options and no need to burn chips.
bisi... the ostrich is the key!

TE 3.1.7 or newer with an ostrich and NG61+, ur all good!

i miss my OBD0 days. it was so fool proof!
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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I honestly cant even find a current copy of TE or BRE, I would LOVE datalogging

I made a post on pgmfi, but it doesnt seem to be a very active board and knowones replied in 2 days

Anyone have a link to BRE or TE currents, or a good read about either and datalogging?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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TE is in the TE development section of PGMFI.

chances are no one is answering because its right in front of your face.
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