Anyone see a reason I need to replace the fuel pump?

We plan to keep this Accord for another 8 years. Thought before it goes bad, I would replace the pump now. My girls ride in the car. I like to replace things before they break -especially since we drive this car as our primary vehicle.

Many thanks.

 

Don't replace it if nothing is wrong with it. I had a 5th gen Accord with over 280,000 miles before I gave it to my nephew. The fuel pump is still good at near 300,000 miles.

Many last the life of the car.

 

What he said. You know the pump is in the tank, right? 297,000 on my 90 with the original pump. Timing belts are probably the most important thing to change on schedule - belt failures leads to significant engine damage.

 

thank you so much....I didnt realize fuel pump can last so long.

My Accord seems to be having a hard time idling. My wife mentioned it is not running as strong - granted it has 120K miles.

Spark plugs, wires, cap and rotor, timing belts were changed 20K miles ago. We use Shell unleaded and occassionally use Chevron fuel additive.

Is there anything that needs replacing or cleaning that would help with the idle and give car more gusto? Do I need to clean out the IACV or something like it? I have to buy brakes, pads and rotors..I can purchase other items if needed.

The oil hasnt been changed for awhile - can this be it? I use Mobil1 Synthetic. It needs changing soon.

Many many thanks for teaching me.

 

Hard time idling? Rough idle? Idles low? A few more details would help. Replace the fuel and air filters if it has been a while since they were replaced. Check EGR operation.

 

What year is the veh.? The vehicle might just need an idle adjustment. Again more info would be better.

 

Accord 1998, 4cyl 4 door sedan.

I live in Los Angeles, California. We have very strict emmission policies here. I did not think the idle can be adjusted. Is it possible?

It does not have a hard time idling..just low idle.

I have replaced air filter...I did not think the fuel filter can be replaced. Is the fuel filter in the tank? I have replaced many fuel filters, but I thought the Accords did not ever need fuel filter replacement. I have read this a few years back on this forum.

thank you thank you so much..I am learning

 

On a 98 there is no fuel filter. just a screen in the tank. And honda factory actually says any of there fuel filters are lifetime. And yes fuel pumps (unlike chevys) should be lifetime also. As far as idle... how low does it go? This year car cannot not be adjusted. When did this start happening? Does it buck, jerk, idle up and down,check engine light? Just make sure the aftermarket plugs wires, cap and rotor are good. Ive never done wires on hondas as these should be lifetime as well. but I have seen cheap caps and rotors cause problems.

 

The idle is just low..it doesnt jerk up or down and it doesnt buck

As for parts, I only order from hondaautomotiveparts.com. These are original honda parts.

Sounds like no need to change filter or pump. I wish I had known about the wires being lifetime. Good to know..you save me some $$$.


Anything else I should replace or think about cleaning? So far, I only have the EGR to look into. Gotta do research and learn what EGR is and what Im looking to do to it.

many thanks

 

Like you said you haven't changed your oil in awhile, get that done.

I know my 94 accord you can adjust the timing by advancing the timing or retarding using a timing light to get your idle up to spec, but that is old technology.
So i am unsure if you can do that on your 98 accord.

How about changing your anti-freeze.

here's what your EGR does and the symptoms of malfunction:

The EGR valve works by routing a small amount of exhaust back into the combustion chamber. When the temperature in the combustion chamber is too high, nitrogen oxides are produced, which combine with elements in the atmosphere to form smog. Introducing a small amount of exhaust into the system reduces the temperature in the combustion chamber, reducing the amount of nitrogen oxides produced.

Many EGR valves are mechanical, and simply have a small valvevalvevalve which opens to allow exhaust into the combustion chamber and closes when it is not necessary, and to keep the air mixture optimal for combustion. Some mechanical versions will not open until there is sufficient back pressure, ensuring that the valvevalvevalve will not be open when the engine is idle or warming up and needs a higher concentration of oxygen for combustion. Electronic EGR valves are also available, and use electronics to regulate the valve.

If the EGR valve is stuck open, it will essentially cause a vacuum leak, leading to inefficient combustion, rough idling, hesitation, and sometimes stalling in extreme cases. This is because the car cannot combust on carbon dioxide from the tailpipe — it needs atmospheric oxygen. If the combustion chamber is flooded with exhaust from an open EGR valve, it will not function properly. To check and see if the EGR valve is stuck open, have someone idle a parked vehicle with the brake on while you examine the plunger shaft to see if it is stuck open.

If the EGR valve is stuck closed, emissions of nitrogen oxides will rise, and the car may start to knock. Spark knock happens when the fuel mixture in the combustion chamber ignites before it has been reached by the explosion in the cylinder, resulting in a disruption of the engine timing. In this instance, the engine should be warmed up and revved to see if the EGR valve will move.

In both cases, simple repairs are possible. The EGR valve can be clogged, and a simple cleaning of a mechanical EGR valve may solve the problem. In the case of an electrically controlled EGR valve or a more complex mechanical problem, replacement of the valve may be needed. The EGR valve is an expensive motor vehicle component, and care should be taken to ensure that it needs to be replaced rather than repaired. A reputable mechanic should advise you appropriately.

 

So why exactly 8 more years?

Just giving you a hard time since you live in the same city.

Adjust the throttle cable, bring your idle up to 800 and see if you still have problems

 

i'd say no.

 

I'd say no til you don't hear your fuel pump buzz anymore each time you crank the key over to the "ON" position.

Mine just went out a few weeks ago and I replaced it with a Walbro 190lph pump.

 

as long as you are not constantly running the car down to E, the pump should last as long as you can drive the car. fuel pumps die because they get overheated and cook to death. the gas acts as a coolant for the pump and keeping the fillups when the tank is at 1/4 or more will make it last

 

^^ Exactly.

I believe my pump was from factory and I have 400K on the chasis.

 

Yes 400k is about all you can ask out of a factory pump. sometimes people replace them with a high flow, or performance pump. Unless your car has a hot rod engine and sees the drag strip every weekend no need to have one of those. And as far as running to empty. This may be a problem for a chevy or ford but Honda has a much better pump design. They are engineered to withstand a cycle of full to almost empty tank. so unless you put a gallon in every fill up.. no need to worry about over heating.

Oh and arielb1 keep in mind that fleetw00d is right. Make sure the timing belt has been replaced.

 

[QUOTE=Hondatech05;40839602]And as far as running to empty. This may be a problem for a chevy or ford but Honda has a much better pump design. They are engineered to withstand a cycle of full to almost empty tank. so unless you put a gallon in every fill up.. no need to worry about over heating.
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bad advice there bud. running any high pressure pump without coolant repeatidly will kill it, honda or not

 

is the fuel pump an expensive fix, and could you do it yourself with a basic set of tools? i saw this thread and figured i'd ask on here rather than make a new thread. sorry if its a dumb question, i just dont know.

 

i got the original pump its at 205000 miles, eventually im gonna get a 225 lph one but not now