Gsr block/Ls crank... Looking for 12s
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I just recently purchased a GSR swap with B16 transmission from a friend of mine. I'm looking to upgrade it for a time, not power.
Engine break down:
GSR Head
Gasket match port on both sides
Stock springs/retainers
GSR cams
Blox intake manifold
Stock throttle body
GSR Block
Stock sleeve block
Stock LS crank
Stock LS rods
Stock B16 pistons
B16 Transmission
Stock
That's how I got it.
This is what I want to do to it:
Head
Edlebrock Performer X intake manifold
Hytech Rep header (maybe something better if the funds allow)
S2S2 Cams/Pro series gears
Either Supertech or Skunk valvetrain
Block
Not really sure what I should do here.
Would I be fine with what I have, or
should I upgrade to high comp. pistons
and stronger rods? Or, have the stock rods
shot peened?
Transmission
MFactory LSD
~12lb Flywheel
Not sure on clutch
Based on what I have planned, assuming the tune is pretty good, should I hit 12s in a full interior EJ6 hatch? How much power, roughly, should I be looking at?
I'm still researching on my own, so forgive me if it's been covered a lot. Just looking for some advice to head in the right direction.
Budget is probably a little over $3000.
Engine break down:
GSR Head
Gasket match port on both sides
Stock springs/retainers
GSR cams
Blox intake manifold
Stock throttle body
GSR Block
Stock sleeve block
Stock LS crank
Stock LS rods
Stock B16 pistons
B16 Transmission
Stock
That's how I got it.
This is what I want to do to it:
Head
Edlebrock Performer X intake manifold
Hytech Rep header (maybe something better if the funds allow)
S2S2 Cams/Pro series gears
Either Supertech or Skunk valvetrain
Block
Not really sure what I should do here.
Would I be fine with what I have, or
should I upgrade to high comp. pistons
and stronger rods? Or, have the stock rods
shot peened?
Transmission
MFactory LSD
~12lb Flywheel
Not sure on clutch
Based on what I have planned, assuming the tune is pretty good, should I hit 12s in a full interior EJ6 hatch? How much power, roughly, should I be looking at?
I'm still researching on my own, so forgive me if it's been covered a lot. Just looking for some advice to head in the right direction.
Budget is probably a little over $3000.
I just recently purchased a GSR swap with B16 transmission from a friend of mine. I'm looking to upgrade it for a time, not power.
Engine break down:
GSR Head
Gasket match port on both sides
Stock springs/retainers
GSR cams
Blox intake manifold
Stock throttle body
GSR Block
Stock sleeve block
Stock LS crank
Stock LS rods
Stock B16 pistons
B16 Transmission
Stock
That's how I got it.
This is what I want to do to it:
Head
Edlebrock Performer X intake manifold
Hytech Rep header (maybe something better if the funds allow)
S2S2 Cams/Pro series gears
Either Supertech or Skunk valvetrain
Block
Not really sure what I should do here.
Would I be fine with what I have, or
should I upgrade to high comp. pistons
and stronger rods? Or, have the stock rods
shot peened?
Transmission
MFactory LSD
~12lb Flywheel
Not sure on clutch
Budget is probably a little over $3000.
Engine break down:
GSR Head
Gasket match port on both sides
Stock springs/retainers
GSR cams
Blox intake manifold
Stock throttle body
GSR Block
Stock sleeve block
Stock LS crank
Stock LS rods
Stock B16 pistons
B16 Transmission
Stock
That's how I got it.
This is what I want to do to it:
Head
Edlebrock Performer X intake manifold
Hytech Rep header (maybe something better if the funds allow)
S2S2 Cams/Pro series gears
Either Supertech or Skunk valvetrain
Block
Not really sure what I should do here.
Would I be fine with what I have, or
should I upgrade to high comp. pistons
and stronger rods? Or, have the stock rods
shot peened?
Transmission
MFactory LSD
~12lb Flywheel
Not sure on clutch
Budget is probably a little over $3000.
are they the usdm b16 pistons or jdm p30's?
i would say the pro1 cams would do better than the stage 2's. headwork will also do wonders.
an LSD will certainly help, suspension of course too
i would say the pro1 cams would do better than the stage 2's. headwork will also do wonders.
an LSD will certainly help, suspension of course too
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I'm looking to keep my block, at least for now.
I'm going to go with the LSD either way. Suspension will consist of Omni Street full coilovers (already have them) and Full-Race traction bar. Innovative mounts are also on the list.
I currently have a full Apex-i WS2 catback, but thinking it may hold me back. I'll probably just swap out the muffler for something more "free-flow".
So, ARP rod bolts with the same pistons? Sounds good to me. About the pistons, I'm not sure which they are, but I'll find out tonight.
As for headwork, I'm planning on leaving it with the gasket matched exhaust/intake. Skunk 2 stage 1, or 2s?
I was also thinking about an MFactory Final Drive. I don't know how to calculate gear ratios, so I'm not sure which to look at.
I'm going to go with the LSD either way. Suspension will consist of Omni Street full coilovers (already have them) and Full-Race traction bar. Innovative mounts are also on the list.
I currently have a full Apex-i WS2 catback, but thinking it may hold me back. I'll probably just swap out the muffler for something more "free-flow".
So, ARP rod bolts with the same pistons? Sounds good to me. About the pistons, I'm not sure which they are, but I'll find out tonight.
As for headwork, I'm planning on leaving it with the gasket matched exhaust/intake. Skunk 2 stage 1, or 2s?
I was also thinking about an MFactory Final Drive. I don't know how to calculate gear ratios, so I'm not sure which to look at.
I'm looking to keep my block, at least for now.
I'm going to go with the LSD either way. Suspension will consist of Omni Street full coilovers (already have them) and Full-Race traction bar. Innovative mounts are also on the list.
I currently have a full Apex-i WS2 catback, but thinking it may hold me back. I'll probably just swap out the muffler for something more "free-flow".
So, ARP rod bolts with the same pistons? Sounds good to me. About the pistons, I'm not sure which they are, but I'll find out tonight.
As for headwork, I'm planning on leaving it with the gasket matched exhaust/intake. Skunk 2 stage 1, or 2s?
I was also thinking about an MFactory Final Drive. I don't know how to calculate gear ratios, so I'm not sure which to look at.
I'm going to go with the LSD either way. Suspension will consist of Omni Street full coilovers (already have them) and Full-Race traction bar. Innovative mounts are also on the list.
I currently have a full Apex-i WS2 catback, but thinking it may hold me back. I'll probably just swap out the muffler for something more "free-flow".
So, ARP rod bolts with the same pistons? Sounds good to me. About the pistons, I'm not sure which they are, but I'll find out tonight.
As for headwork, I'm planning on leaving it with the gasket matched exhaust/intake. Skunk 2 stage 1, or 2s?
I was also thinking about an MFactory Final Drive. I don't know how to calculate gear ratios, so I'm not sure which to look at.
Mfactory FD kits are nice
I just got a 4.9 FD. Use the Mfactory gear calculator belowhttp://www.teammfactory.com/gearcalculator.php
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Any other opinions?
Not sure what size throttle body to run.
Even if I don't hit my goal, I'm sure a small shot of nitrous will put me where I want to be. Just wanted to do something different and for the price I got the setup for, I couldn't pass it up.
Not sure what size throttle body to run.
Even if I don't hit my goal, I'm sure a small shot of nitrous will put me where I want to be. Just wanted to do something different and for the price I got the setup for, I couldn't pass it up.
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Looking into the RMF Narrow header replica. Looks promising. May invest towards that instead of the Hytech Rep.
what a coincidence I am doing a very similiar build.
b16b with ls crank and rods only mine will have a 82mm bore with rs machines.
Iam so excited,I already have the head and just bought a gasket set set freshin it up,
I also had a friend ship me an ls crank,rod combo out of an 94ls(150 bucks) so all I gotta do know is order pistons and wait untill I can have it machined,balanced and assembled.
l will let you know what I make and run (I estimate Ill have it running by new years)in my ek4. having an extra +30whp over my b16a2 will certainly be a great start for 2010!
b16b with ls crank and rods only mine will have a 82mm bore with rs machines.
Iam so excited,I already have the head and just bought a gasket set set freshin it up,
I also had a friend ship me an ls crank,rod combo out of an 94ls(150 bucks) so all I gotta do know is order pistons and wait untill I can have it machined,balanced and assembled.
l will let you know what I make and run (I estimate Ill have it running by new years)in my ek4. having an extra +30whp over my b16a2 will certainly be a great start for 2010!
You are goin in the right direction. Slap some ARP bolts in the bottom end and rev to 9-9500rpm. Cams, intake, and header are something you dont want to skimp on.
Any idea on weight of the car?
Any idea on weight of the car?
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Full interior EK hatch. Not exactly sure.
Do I have to do anything to the rods to install the ARP bolts? I heard of ovaling with the clamping capacity of the ARP bolts.
Do I have to do anything to the rods to install the ARP bolts? I heard of ovaling with the clamping capacity of the ARP bolts.
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Pistons are PR3s.
What throttle body should I go with, Omni 70mm or Blox 68mm?
Really excited to get this going. Parts are going to be coming in nonstop for a while!
What throttle body should I go with, Omni 70mm or Blox 68mm?
Really excited to get this going. Parts are going to be coming in nonstop for a while!
no one i know of, they are a damn good cam, that i havent really seen matched. The only close cam ive seen is i believe the **** (im not sure which but it was rocket) and i havent seen a head to head yet.
If the Rods aren't shot-peened and hung w/ the new arp rod bolts in them, any rod can snap, be LS , GSR or otherwise. I'm at 9K w/ my GSR/LS Crank setup.. no issues of any kind. But I'm also very thorough at what is being built.



