Ok so before i go with this either "good" or "stupid" idea i need some info from the fellow s2000 owners.

Im picking up my BYS wing on monday and i know its illegal to drive around without a third break light in California. What if i made the typical civic and integra JDM Rear Fog fit on my bumper in the way that the civics and tegs do it?

Yes or no? Let me know... I like it better than the one where the exhaust one goes, plus i dont plan on going single exhaust to even fit it. Let me know..









Also..... My s2k is NewFormulaRed so it will actually blend in more than any other color

 

Yes, big up to something new

 

thanks for the input...




If its been done before anyone have pix?

 

why not just add the stick on LED light strip and wire it as a 3rd brake light?

 

is there a DIY thread anywhere on here for the LED stip.. I wouldnt put it on the wing itself but somewhere else might do..

 

its pretty straight forward. just peel back the sticky tape and attach the wires to your brake light, or better yet to the oem plug where your stock 3rd brake light would go

 

to give you guys an idea

 

mounting that and making it a third brake light would just get you pulled over quicker.


a third brake light has to be center mounted and higher than the two regular brake lights.

 

damn.. i was just thinking if there was some kind of rule for that too.. Crap! Now its in me to do it cuz i kinda like it. Well, ill look into the LED strips then. Might do it where my wind screen is afterall

 

nope.. im fine.. Just read the rulebook.. A CHP buddy of mine just sent me this.


"Supplemental stoplamps installed after January 1, 1979, shall be red in color and mounted not lower than 15 inches above the roadway." Its more than 15 inches so im good...

 

1979??? you're talking about supplemental taillamps on horsetrailers or other towing attachments.

CHMSL was made mandatory in the united states in 1986. this is what YOUR situation is about.



from wikipedia...


Centre High Mount Stop Lamp (CHMSL)

LED CHMSL retrofitted on a 1974 ValiantIn North America since 1986, in Australia and New Zealand since 1990, and in Europe since 1998, a central brake lamp, mounted higher than the vehicle's left and right brake lamps and called a Centre High Mount Stop Lamp (CHMSL), is also required. The CHMSL (pronounced /ˈtʃɪmzəl/) is also sometimes referred to as the centre brake lamp, the third brake light, the eye-level brake lamp, the safety brake lamp, the high-level brake lamp, or the Liddy Light (for Elizabeth Dole, who as U.S. Secretary of Transportation presided over its introduction in the United States[50]). The CHMSL may produce light by means of a single central filament bulb, a row or cluster of filament bulbs or LEDs, or a strip of Neon tube.

The CHMSL is intended to provide a deceleration warning to following drivers whose view of the vehicle's left and right stop lamps is blocked by interceding vehicles. It also helps to disambiguate brake vs. turn signal messages in North America, where red rear turn signals identical in appearance to brake lamps are permitted, and also can provide a redundant brake signal in the event of a brake lamp malfunction. The CHMSL is required to illuminate steadily; it is not permitted to flash except in certain cases under severe braking.[51][52]

On passenger cars, the CHMSL may be placed above the back glass, affixed to the vehicle's interior just inside the back glass, or it may be integrated into the vehicle's deck lid or into a spoiler. Other specialised fitments are sometimes seen; the Jeep Wrangler and Land Rover Freelander have the CHMSL on a stalk fixed to the spare wheel carrier. Trucks, vans and commercial vehicles sometimes have the CHMSL mounted to the trailing edge of the vehicle's roof. The CHMSL is required by regulations worldwide to be centred laterally on the vehicle, though ECE R48 permits lateral offset of up to 15 cm if the vehicle's lateral centre is not coincident with a fixed body panel, but instead separates movable components such as doors.[15] The Renault Master van, for example, uses a laterally offset CHMSL for this reason. The height of the CHMSL is also regulated, in absolute terms and with respect to the mounting height of the vehicle's conventional left and right brake lamps.[53] Depending on the left and right lamps' height, the lower edge of the CHMSL may be just above the left and right lamps' upper edge.

[edit] History
The 1968–1971 Ford Thunderbird could be ordered with additional high-mounted brake and turn signal lights.[citation needed] These were fitted in strips on either side of its small rear window. The Oldsmobile Toronado from 1971-1978, and the Buick Riviera from 1974-1976 had dual high-mounted supplemental brake lights/turn signals as standard, and were located just below the bottom of the rear window, visually aligned with the conventional rear tail lights/brake lights/turn signals just above the rear bumper. These innovations were not widely adopted at the time. Auto and lamp manufacturers in Germany experimented with dual high-mount supplemental brake lamps in the early 1980s,[54] but this effort, too, failed to gain wide popular or regulatory support.

Early studies involving taxicabs and other fleet vehicles found that a third stop lamp reduced rear-end collisions by about 50%. The lamp's novelty probably played a role, since today the lamp is credited with reducing collisions by about 5%.[55]

In 1986, the United States National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and Transport Canada mandated that all new passenger cars have a CHMSL installed. A CHMSL was required on all new light trucks and vans starting in 1994. CHMSLs are so inexpensive to incorporate into a vehicle that even if the lamps prevent only a few percent of rear end collisions they remain a cost-effective safety feature.[55]

 

This kid just installed one. Here's the thread for an idea. I used to have one on my ap2 in the driver side exhaust hole since I was running a single exhaust.

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=747823

 

that looks good but it can only be done with the ap1 bumper and i have an ap2. Also the one in the exhaust hole isnt a good idea for me. Cops pull people over for exhaust all the time here and that would be more of a red flag then the light...

 

AP2 DRIVER SIDE TAILIGHTS FTW.... the cleanest way and the right way... built in rear fog inside the tailight where the reverse light normally go... heres a pic... good luck finding this... never seen anyone with it...


incase you couldnt find it... you can bake your oem driver side tails and open it, paint the reverse light red, reseal... and rewire to keep em on with the parking lights...

 

now thats a good idea!!! cheap and willl look just like the edm...

 

this wouldnt work not unless you cut a the bumper support inside... which is a huge metal piece.... plus doesnt look right imo....

 

Looks good... but probably too much work.

 

Someone on here with a black S2000 custom did a 3rd brake light on his BYS wing... Search for it!