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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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heres what i have...a 2000 civic hatchback. bone stock 2000 B18C1 motor, with stock civic exhaust. i went to the track a few weeks ago, and i ran a 15.6. i was disappointed, but i watched other EKs and DCs with gsr motors run...and they hit around the same time as me. but they had basic bolt ons, i was stock. ive always thought an EK with a gsr swap would run a high 14s to low 15s.

so i want to know how fast should i be running?

can you guys give me your run times and your setup, so i can compare?

if you dont have run times please dont reply.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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dang...i was hoping to come back here and see results

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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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15ish is average. eg with gsr motor is what i did.
depends on driving skills.
improve your launch and get better tires and try again.
ditch rear seats, spare tire, etc. try things.
no 2 cars are ever the same. they could have 400k miles on their motors.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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thanks bro...i had full interior in when i timed it. ac and ps also.
atleast now i know that 15s is average.
people have been telling me i should be faster.
i just had to make sure.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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It all depends on alot of factors. But to me, 15s is not that bad. Especially if your not experience and running bone stock everything.... I ran a 16s in my h2b in an em1 many times.... LOL embarrassing i know........But after that you get used to it and just get better. Then stock free flowing the motor and your time should be better.I've seen gsr swap into em1 coupe running 14s easy.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Practice makes perfect at the track. I ran a low 16 in my stock EM1 the first time but after I made a couple passes my times progressively got better.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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yeah just depends how much experience u have at the track.. my gsr hatch with just i/h/e ran a 14.2
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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i went 11.4 in my turbo d
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i went 11.4 in my turbo d
That has nothing to do with the topic that was posted.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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16's in a h2b em1 is soo terrible..
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its been 7 years and ive finally got back into the scene. i may be a little rusty but i know what im doing. i get pretty good traction launching at 4000rpms on the street and 4500rpms at the track. this is my first swap. i just thought a stock gsr swap would run a little faster than 15s. at least thats what everyone says. so i just want to compare times.

it may be that i run with full interior...or my tiny stock dx exhaust holding me back.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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16's in a h2b em1 is soo terrible..
What does H2b stand for?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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H series engine and B series tranny, mated together via adapter plate. duHH, lol.

OP, you should know that your stock CIVIC exhaust needs to be replaced, come on. Factory ITR anc CTR is 2.5 and thats the from the factory so that should tell you something. If it is an Ek(hatchback) buy a CTR B pipe.

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what were your 60ft times?

get some bolt ons and more practice time. your times should go down.

i had 99 hatch with a stock b16 in it. best i could do was 15.9.
i added i/h/e/ctr ecu and i ran a 14.7 on street tires.
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OP, you should know that your stock CIVIC exhaust needs to be replaced, come on. Factory ITR anc CTR is 2.5 and thats the from the factory so that should tell you something. If it is an Ek(hatchback) by a CTR B pipe.
thanks...well, i just got the swap in last month. christmas is coming up, so i havent looked into getting an exhaust yet.
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heres what i have...a 2000 civic hatchback. bone stock 2000 B18C1 motor, with stock civic exhaust. i went to the track a few weeks ago, and i ran a 15.6. i was disappointed, but i watched other EKs and DCs with gsr motors run...and they hit around the same time as me. but they had basic bolt ons, i was stock. ive always thought an EK with a gsr swap would run a high 14s to low 15s.

so i want to know how fast should i be running?

can you guys give me your run times and your setup, so i can compare?

if you dont have run times please dont reply.

First off there isnt much difference between full interior and maybe no back seats/spare tire...it helps but its not like you are gonna run 11's

Secondly, tires are a HUGE factor with fwd drag racing...you need at least drag radials to make any kind of decent time unless you practice ALOT on street tires. Most people dont get that kinda seat time so DRs or slicks are just easier for the best times.

Post your slip/ you probably have a 2.4-2.5 60ft which is killing your times among other things.

My 99 EK with a C5 went 13.6@101 w 2.0 60' with a tiny intake and 2.25 exhaust....I would imagine a GSR being a few tenths slower...somewhere in the low 14's..car weighed 2440 by itself and about 2600 or so with me in it.

Temps should be cooling down which helps with power but sometimes track prep takes a back seat and your just spinning too much.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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what were your 60ft times?

get some bolt ons and more practice time. your times should go down.

i had 99 hatch with a stock b16 in it. best i could do was 15.9.
i added i/h/e/ctr ecu and i ran a 14.7 on street tires.
im not really sure how to read my time slip. heres how it reads:

Dail-in: .00
Reaction: .398
I1:
I2: 6.684
I3: 10.140
MPH I3: 72.243
I4: 13.123

ET: 15.637
MPH: 91.679

Over/Under: 15.637
M.O.V: .281
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Originally Posted by K7-1Ktrevor
16's in a h2b em1 is soo terrible..
I think you have the wrong thread
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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im not really sure how to read my time slip. heres how it reads:

Dail-in: .00
Reaction: .398
I1:
I2: 6.684
I3: 10.140
MPH I3: 72.243
I4: 13.123

ET: 15.637
MPH: 91.679

Over/Under: 15.637
M.O.V: .281
Cant see your 60' time....can you see it or is the slip too washed out now? I swear those machines use disappearig ink on them.

That and your traps seem low for a healthy GSR motor... I would think it should be at least 94 or so...91 is US B16 territory lol
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Cant see your 60' time....can you see it or is the slip too washed out now? I swear those machines use disappearig ink on them.
i dont know why that slip didnt show I1. is that the 60' time?

my other slip shows it, but i actually ran slower on that time. it was 2.526

i ran 15.784 on that one.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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I think you have the wrong thread
Nope, he didn't..it was a few replies up.

Originally Posted by dohcem1
It all depends on alot of factors. But to me, 15s is not that bad. Especially if your not experience and running bone stock everything.... I ran a 16s in my h2b in an em1 many times.... LOL embarrassing i know........But after that you get used to it and just get better. Then stock free flowing the motor and your time should be better.I've seen gsr swap into em1 coupe running 14s easy.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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i dont know why that slip didnt show I1. is that the 60' time?

my other slip shows it, but i actually ran slower on that time. it was 2.526

i ran 15.784 on that one.
I was expecting to see 2.4-2.5 with your times....sounds like your dumping the clutch, spining your tires and/or getting ALOT of wheel hop

On streets youll have to practice feathering a little more and trying not to overpower them...I ran stiff sidewall tires with almost no give and could easily spin them if I wasnt careful..same result...2.4 60's and spining in first/second gears with times significantly off the pace.

As far as the H2B reply he should have quoted the kid for clarity - its off topic so lets focus on the OPs problem
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I've never really seen a b-series swapped Civic run 15's... they're all usually mid 14's, unless theres something wrong with the car, or you just cant drive
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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thanks sergek9. i was feeling alot of wheel hop. ill need to start practicing feathering the clutch.

what would be an average good 60ft time? the lower the better?
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thanks sergek9. i was feeling alot of wheel hop. ill need to start practicing feathering the clutch.

what would be an average good 60ft time? the lower the better?
Ouch, I used to get real bad wheel hop. Better tires, and shocks eliminated it, and made night/day difference when coming off the line.. which helps drop those times down more than you think.
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