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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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ok so i noticed this problem while changing my axle:
the front knuckle/ shock fork doesn't line up and when my axle is in the transmission, it's crooked. i believe this misalignment is causing my axles to fail prematurely. i am getting a knocking/ clicking sound from that area, it could be that the axle is rubbing up against the fork as i'm turning. it only makes noise while i'm turning right slowly/ accelarating (i.e. parking lot, or turning right from a stop).

i have my theories, well really only one: could it be that part #11 is bent?

any ideas welcome, chime in please.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:06 AM
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is this the first axle you have replaced in the car? Check your motor mounts maybe one is sagging and the engine dropped a bit. clicking when turning could indicate that its just a bad cv joint . best of luck
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jdmwannabee
Is this image taken with everythign bolted up, or in the midst of replacing the axle?

If this is how your setup looks completely bolted up. I can tell you that your axle isn't ligned up properly with your hub assembly. There should be 1/4" -1/2" of the axle sticking out past the axle nut when it is tightened. If this is the case your CV joint is probably bindng and that is what is causing the noise.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:46 AM
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i don't know what wrong with your suspension but i did see the brake line isn't bolted down.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CruiserDan
is this the first axle you have replaced in the car? Check your motor mounts maybe one is sagging and the engine dropped a bit. clicking when turning could indicate that its just a bad cv joint . best of luck
the motor mounts are good.

Originally Posted by GhostAccord
Is this image taken with everythign bolted up, or in the midst of replacing the axle?

If this is how your setup looks completely bolted up. I can tell you that your axle isn't ligned up properly with your hub assembly. There should be 1/4" -1/2" of the axle sticking out past the axle nut when it is tightened. If this is the case your CV joint is probably bindng and that is what is causing the noise.
the knuckle was bolted up, but the axle wasn't all the way in, in the picture. with the axle all the way in the transmission and the hub, it still has that angle. i think it is binding i just don't know on what.

Originally Posted by accord99power
i don't know what wrong with your suspension but i did see the brake line isn't bolted down.
yes, in the picture it isn't bolted down.
after the picture was taken it was bolted down.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Let's play a game... What's wrong with my suspension?!

Is it the correct axle length?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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i'm assuming it is the right axle, i purchased them from autozone, free replacement. and it was the same part # as before.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Did you jack the car up by the frame? If the suspension is at full travel (down), you may just need lift the hub to a more normal position relative to the transmission.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jdowen2
Is it the correct axle length?
When I had a shop replace my half shaft (cant remember which side), everytime it was to short. They got on from carquest, advance, and even autozone but they all were to short. Finally O'reilly had one that fit.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fleetw00d
Did you jack the car up by the frame? If the suspension is at full travel (down), you may just need lift the hub to a more normal position relative to the transmission.
speaking of relative positions. i just thought about something:
could it be that my suspension is clocked, i replaced that upper control arm not too long ago, and now that i think about it, i think it could be that causing it to be off, i'm going to loosen it up and see if i can get some play in it.

Originally Posted by 19Accord97
When I had a shop replace my half shaft (cant remember which side), everytime it was to short. They got on from carquest, advance, and even autozone but they all were to short. Finally O'reilly had one that fit.
the first one was the same length as the original, and the newest one is the same length as the first replacement.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Whats the condition of no. 19 & 15??
Could no. 10 / 12 be cocked back due to the above bushes being worn??
Failing that I would go with what you just mentioned with the top A-Arm being offset / incorrect.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 02:41 AM
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When you replaced the axle did you have to "Force" anything togther? Revert back to the installation process and identify if anything gave you an usual hard time getting off or back on.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by accord2nrz
When you replaced the axle did you have to "Force" anything togther? Revert back to the installation process and identify if anything gave you an usual hard time getting off or back on.
since i did it myself i had a bitch of a time getting the shock fork back on to the lca, when i come back from vacation next week i'm going to see if i can get it back to spec. the more i think of it the more i'm sure that's where the root of my problems is.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Sounds like it. When I replaced my axles I nearly bent stuff dealing with that LCA. it's no joke
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