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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Hopefully this isn't a repost...

It's amazing to see how detailed this guy gets with his measurements.

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=141365

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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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haha, thats nuts. ive seen some simple gadgets that measure clear coat thickness, but nothing like this before. i also cant believe a high-end car like that would leave the factory with that much clear coat. my ford f-350 didnt even look that bad.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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thats what a true detailing guru is.

crazy measurement taking and attention to detail.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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I've seen that several times. The guy is a lunatic. Seriously. He has issues. Someone that takes that level of detail and applies it to a car with less than a hundred miles is a nut. He almost returned the car due to an imperfection in the paint job that was practically invisible to the naked eye.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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I'm speechless after viewing that detail thread.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 06:39 AM
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damn and i though me spending 20 hours was a **** load
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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wow. i would be scared to wetsand anything costing that much. the results are amazing though.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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wet sanding isn't that hard or complicated once you've practiced and have the right materials to finish the car properly
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Default Re: A scientific detailing job...

Originally Posted by Spec R
thats what a true detailing guru is.

crazy measurement taking and attention to detail.
i guess. i could see doing depth gauge, etc for older vehicles and since you have it, for high-line stuff just in case, but the stuff this guy is using, and the general excess these guys take is an example of a number of UK detailers that have taken things to unnecessary extremes, and in the process rape people. but i guess if they have a captive audience that pays the bill...why not?

i look at the big picture- could whatever end results be achieved with half the hassle and half the time? probably. for example, why charge a customer for 70 hours when it could be done in 40, or charge for 40 hours when it can be done in 20, etc.

but, i look on the brightside here- atleast i'm not the one doing what that guy is doing, and atleast i'm not paying him to do it to my cars. he's doing it and documenting it, and we are using it for entertainment so that's worth the price of admission on this end....FREE!

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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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One day, I will save up enough to get that $2700 ultrasonic Paint thickness gauge and a $1200 Glossmeter!

Just think of the possibilities and potential of a detail!

It would be Glosstacular! It gives me somthing to strive for!
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 1.5Slowmatic
wet sanding isn't that hard or complicated once you've practiced and have the right materials to finish the car properly
Thank you. Wetsanding is easy as **** for me, and depending on the car I'm working with, sometimes I can stop at 1500 and it buffs smoother than glass.

Originally Posted by builthatch
i guess i could see doing depth gauge, etc for older vehicles and since you have it, for high-line stuff just in case, but the stuff this guy is using, and the general excess these guys take is an example of a number of UK detailers that have taken things to unnecessary extremes

i look at the big picture- could whatever end results be achieved with half the hassle and half the time? probably. for example, why charge a customer for 70 hours when it could be done in 40, or charge for 40 hours when it can be done in 20, etc.
The boss makes another great point!

The depth gauge is to trick people (who have no idea what 'detailing' really is)that someone who doesn't use one is inferior. There isn't much of a point in his use with it. If you look closely (like you would if you saw the car in person), you will notice he only sanded the flat areas of each panel, so why the depth gauge? He stayed about 2.5" away from any panel edges or body lines on a car that isn't even three or four years old. It looks really bad IMO because the paint surface isn't even or uniform anymore. Looks like a defective paint job.

Another thing to take note about is the fact that no matter how much or how little clear you remove, it is still clear that COULD be in place to serve its purpose. By shaving the orange peel down to a flat, level surface, he has enhanced the reflectivity by a ton, but has shortened the lifespan of the paint job. I compare it to cutting springs on a car. Sure, it might look great, but the performance has been hindered. Had this been an aftermarket re-spray, then you can achieve an extremely thick layer of clear that can be molded into whatever you desire, however this was not the case.

/rant.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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I think it is an amazing job and i would give the guy props for the quality and effort he put in
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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No one here is doubting the fact that the did a fantastic job and the car looks great. I just think it could have been a little less complicated with very similar results. For example, I'm aware that the owner could have requested that it get flattened out during the detail. Here's what I did with an FD Rx-7 after being repainted:


And after a round of wetsanding with 1500 and 2000 grit by hand:


The guy did a fine job. But let me ask this: If a car you were detailing was about to be going through a wetsanding process with several steps including DA wetsanding, would you bother with breaking out the foam gun?
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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nice work on the rx-7.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadRage212
No one here is doubting the fact that the did a fantastic job and the car looks great. I just think it could have been a little less complicated with very similar results. For example, I'm aware that the owner could have requested that it get flattened out during the detail. Here's what I did with an FD Rx-7 after being repainted:

The guy did a fine job. But let me ask this: If a car you were detailing was about to be going through a wetsanding process with several steps including DA wetsanding, would you bother with breaking out the foam gun?
I don't see why not...The car would have to be cleaned finding the imperfections right?
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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I don't see why not...The car would have to be cleaned finding the imperfections right?
Sure. And a foam is a sure way to do that. However, if you're wetsanding the car, you know that before hand, and about 80% of the car would be flattened out, why are you wasting more time with the foam gun? Wash the bitch, clay the hell out of it and get to sanding. That's all I would be worried about. If it were a mint Ferrari getting its twice yearly treatment, then yeah. The foam gun is getting a work out. I feel this is just another example of a drawn-out process he followed.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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after all said and done, everything turned out nice. pretty nutts!
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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holy **** those look so good. i want to get mine done now haha
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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beautiful
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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A lot of the corvette guys are about this crazy. taped off, disassembly etc. the wrong guy could RUIN a new car like that too as some new clears are thin
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