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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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just dropped an h22 in my hatch people keep telling me to get a p28 or p13

what is the best ecu to use? planning on chipping it with hondata and 2 step?

and what would be the difference between using a manual ecu and automatic ecu?
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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If you're going to chip it just get whatever is cheapest. Do you plan on doing a build that requires a tune and a two step?
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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If you are going to chip it or get hondata, you need a p28. But don't run the motor on a virgin p28 though. If you are not going to chip or and not going to get hondata (which is fine) you use a p13. I use a p13 with my H22 EG swap.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRappist
If you are going to chip it or get hondata, you need a p28. But don't run the motor on a virgin p28 though. If you are not going to chip or and not going to get hondata (which is fine) you use a p13. I use a p13 with my H22 EG swap.

If the ecu is going to be chipped he can pretty much run any board he wants, as long as it's OBD1. P06, P08, P30, P72, the list goes on.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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I realize that. But he asked about 2 certain ecus, so I gave him the information he needed. Instead of posting more ecus codes, like you did, confusing him even more. Thanks
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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I realize that. But he asked about 2 certain ecus, so I gave him the information he needed. Instead of posting more ecus codes, like you did, confusing him even more. Thanks

Sorry, i didn't know you were the information authority here at honda-tech.

PR4's and P06's will more than likely be cheaper and more common than a P28 or a P30, and you will end up with basically the same thing once they are chipped.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Does it matter if the ecu is auto?
And I plan on getting it tuned
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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Does it matter if the ecu is auto?
And I plan on getting it tuned
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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it wont matter if its tuned
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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The P13 is a pain in the *#* to chip and P06, P05, PR4 will have to be converted to Vtec ecu's with the use of some extra parts. The auto and manual won't matter once u have the ecu's chipped but the simplest thing to do is use a manual P28, P30, or P72. If u want to keep the knock sensor ability then use the P72
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by azandford
it wont matter if its tuned
^^^^ don't listen to him. i believe all modded engines should be at LEAST street tuned. contact phearable.net and have them make an ecu for your exact setup. it would get you by for the time being and you'd be able to daily drive it. all their ecu's are hondata compatible as well. then, when your funds permit, get the s300 and have it PROPERLY tuned.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by civic_r87111
The P13 is a pain in the *#* to chip
Thats what i've always heard as well.

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P06, P05, PR4 will have to be converted to Vtec ecu's with the use of some extra parts.
Correct P06s and P28s actually share the same boards in some cases (there were a couple of different boards used) The P06s simply lack vtec components and have different maps, once chipped and converted there really shouldn't be any difference.

Originally Posted by civic_r87111
The auto and manual won't matter once u have the ecu's chipped
Somewhat correct, it doesn't really matter if you have an automatic or manual ECU. But you don't even have the chip the ECU to convert it, you simply have to remove RP17 and RP18 and replace RP18 with a jumper wire (this assumes you have a P06 or P28) I'm not entirely sure if you can do anything through software.

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but the simplest thing to do is use a manual P28, P30, or P72. If u want to keep the knock sensor ability then use the P72
I agree. P30 and P72 both utilize a knock sensor though. Perhaps you meant IABs? Which the H22 does have. My personal choice for an H22 would be a chipped P72 for that reason.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Oh yeah I forgot about the damned IAB's but not all P30's have the knock board in them but all P72's do as well as the IAB's in the P72.
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Default Re: h22 swap in my eg what best ecu to use

in my del sol i used a chipped obd1 gsr ecu ...chipped to throw more gas...mainly cuz couldnt get a p13 work really good.....so either or will be good for u

now the question is which ecu should i put on my h22 in my ek cuz im struggling...lol
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by oramac_eg
just dropped an h22 in my hatch people keep telling me to get a p28 or p13

what is the best ecu to use? planning on chipping it with hondata and 2 step?

and what would be the difference between using a manual ecu and automatic ecu?
with basic bolt ons my car ran great on a p0f thats a type s jdm ecu has a very nie top end i dunno if you can find one or not but if you can. get it.....
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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Default Re: h22 swap in my eg what best ecu to use

There selling me a p28 with s100 for 200 should I get it its tuned for a h22 already
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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That's not to bad of a deal but u could get Neptune or Ectune or a Crome set up for $400
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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chipped p28 for tunability and its mandatory if you swap to aftermarket IM
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