Hi everyone, I'm new here and just wanted to first off say hello. I currently have a 1989 BNR32 Skyline for a track only car, that at this time is currently waiting for parts and time for me to get everything going. However I am looking for a fun, rare DD, I'm just sick of driving my truck due to the horrible gas mileage and just the absolute blandness of driving it everyday. So I have been looking around and think I might buy my first honda, considering I usually only go for Nissan or mitsubishi (have had S13, S14, 350Z, BNR32 GTR, Evo VIII, and 3000GT VR4)

With all that said I have been looking for a RHD Honda Integra Type R, as I see they pop up all the time on here and other sites for around 12-15k well I have 15K in hand, and would really like to pick one up, but I would like to know what your guys thoughts are on the pros and cons.

From what I understand the car is highly receptive to theft, I can only imagine it being worse if it's RHD. For this I was thinking of getting Lojack and a removable steering wheel to help thwart would be theives. Also I know that drive thrus and tolls would be out of the question with it being RHD, but that really doesn't bother me seeing as how we have no tolls here and if I eat out I usually go in to order anyway.

So tell me guys is there anything else I should be looking into before buying, and also if you know of anyone that is currently selling a JDM ITR can you point me in their direction?

Thanks for any help.

 

I do understand that the theft rate on the ITR is insanely high, I just don't see it being that big of a deal considering the cars that live near me, or the fact of where I live in N. Ky. I have had many cars, and I would think most of them would have been even more sought after than a ITR. I could maybe see it as being a problem if I lived in FL or Ca but I literally am in the middle of suburbia hell and the theft rate in my area is ridiculously low.

 

If the ITR is parked in the street, it's not your's, it's the world's. However, if you are dead on getting an ITR I suggest you get a real time GPS tracking device hooked up to a motion sensor notifying you when it's being touched.

But, for 12-15k to DD I would for damn sure get something better like a S2000, IS300, 3 Series, or C-Klasses. S2000s sadly also have a high theft rate...... by towing.

 

Meh, I guess I am a rare commoditie, I have driven the S2000 and I just don't fit, Is300 is an absolute slug, and not fond of being just another yuppie in a Bimmer or Merc. I like to have fun when I drive, whether that drive is in the hills speeding along nicely or just driving to work. As I said if the ITR is what I end up with its getting lojack with the monitoring system that tells me when the car is moved by phone call and also the removable steering wheel and alarm pager.

 

Turbo GSR as a daily and track car if you want an integra... and keep it low profile. Sleeper style.

 

If I wanted a GSR I would just get another Evo but the main thing I want out of this car is just pure fun to drive in stock form, something reliable and not too bad on gas. That is why the ITR seemed like a good choice. Plus the Skyline fills in for the track car roll considering I can't even drive the damn thing on the road.

I'm pretty dead set on the ITR I was just wondering if you guys could tell me anything about the pros or cons of having rhd for a daily.

 

Layer a few security devices, get full coverage insurance and call it a day. In the end, it is just a car.

A couple warnings though:

1) You may find the ITR to be more enjoyable to track toy than your R32. I have driven both, and I feel more relaxed and smoother in the ITR, while keeping up with some very fast cars. Plus, you can't beat $350 for R-compound tires and $100 for rotors/pads.

2) If you are set on going Gray Market JDM, keep in mind there are no NHTSA and DOT approved RHD ITR's in the U.S. All the JDM ITR's driven on U.S. roads are either VIN swapped (federal offence = prison), or state registered, which the new EPA Gray Market task force is clamping down on. State registration, while you do get a VIN, is still not DOT/NHTSA legal, and there have been a few instances where cars are getting siezed, crushed, and then the owners being billed the fees (usually in the ~$8,000 range).

It may be easier in this case to look for a clean USDM ITR.

 

Listen, if your going to come here an ask questions.. Take the advice you get man.
You think you know what your getting into? You dont. This is not a normal car.
It doesnt matter where you live. Or how safe you think you are from thieves.

Not one of the cars you listed has anywhere near the theft rate of the ITR.
Nor the ease of theft, or the ability to make more on the car in pieces then the car in driving condition. Everything can be reused on other honda's right down to the fenders. The market is CRAZY for these parts. These facts make the ITR worth the risk of getting caught.

I had one as my daily driver in the middle of suburbia. It was fine for a year and a half. Then I trusted my roomate did his homework an we moved to an area of town I was not familiar with an in 27 days it was gone. 2 months later it was found less then a mile from my house in the woods where it had been stripped down to the frame.
There was nothing left. No glass. No dash, NOTHING. To add insult to injury, I fought with the insurance company for 2 months on what the car was worth, an not only did I have every reciept for the 5k under hood.. The $1800 for red recaro's and pictures.. I had full protection from theft an lojack and still only got enough to pay off the bank loan.

Don't be a fool an think your lojack an steering wheel will protect the car. Its possible that it could.. But the chances that it doesnt are significantly higher and not worth it. If you feel remotely as passionate about the car once you own it, then do yourself an your car a solid an use multiple layers of protection. Specially if you plan to use it as a DD. Rewire the battery, move the hood release from the fender.. Lock the hood. Sensors.. A garage.... AND THEN SOME.

Take this advice man. Do your homework.

 

bro at the end of the day your not buying a regular car, what your buying is like oil is a commodity, for every $1000 you spend you will need to spend atleast $100 per thousand you spend on the car. i have a all mugen r with the k and what i did was i found out what was the best home security on the market and took some of its ideas and implemented them on my car, and my car havent been stolen yet and i live where these cars get stolen all the time. but pulling up in a r dd to a local meet or a jdm car show you would shut down alot of those wannabes, and 15k is right a round what a GOOD CONDITION rhd r will go far

 

Well if you plan on driving the RHD on the street I can tell you that passing is a frightening experience.

 

Also, making left turns in front of oncoming traffic sucks.

 

dude car theft is only crazy in cail if you live somewhere else just get a badass alarm gps and full coverage and your set. all i got to say is dont be a *****

***** = cat :D

 

itr car theft is not that high first off they didnt make that much seconed off it it was that high how come i never seen it on the top 10 most cars stolen chart? :facepalm:

 

i daily drive my itr.....

 

whats the purpose of having an itr if your going to baby it?

 

oh yeah but get a usdm itr not a jdm one i mean the rhd is Koo and everything but how is that gonna benefit you? does the rhd make you faster? NO so just stick with a usdm send around 10 and use the 5 to add some things to it

 

Yes, actually it is. And yes, the parts are worth a considerable amount more then the car is in one piece. If that were not true, they would not be stripping them down to the frame... Common sense ftw sir.

Statistics do not show it as being stolen as much as, say a camry.. But its pretty self explanatory.. For every R on the road theres 100 camry's if not more. If you actually did some research, you will find that a very high % of USDM Type R's no longer have a Factory title due to theft.

As of March 2006 more then 10% had been stolen. I am willing to bet that since then that number has doubled.

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8620904/

Older article, but percentage-wise, you can't say it's not up there. Keep in mind that there are less to steal now. One on here, was a salvaged one, mstewar rebuilt it, sold it...and that new owner had it stolen shortly thereafter.

It is pretty nuts. I can't even count how many friends have had their ITR, GSRs, Si coupes, and so on stolen.

 

well basically im just hitting you with a little sarcism if you didnt notice.
but anyways i daily drive my itr. park it outside all the time nothing has ever happend its really based on where you live. i mean if the OP is stating that he lives out in the middle of nowhere and in the suburbs of middle of nowhere im sure he should be fine with just an alarm GPS if he wants to be cautious.

 

wowow you need to relax little man i was just trying to be sarcastic but your taking everything **** so imma go somewhere else now

 

yes that's exactly what i was trying to say. you my friend are a mind reader. and i do park my r in the garage and still put the alarm on im not an idiot im just saying why are you going to buy an R if your not going to drive it? i understand the people who buy Rs and only use them to track but to buy an R and leave it locked up then that's stupid.

 

I don't live in California, New York, or Florida. I was living in a gated community in Reno, NV surrounded by homes that are worth about 400k and mine was stolen when I left it out for ONE night.

It doesn't depend on where you live, it depends on who sees your car and decides to investigate a little further and then before you know it, your ITR is gone.

The more your R is seen by the public, the more of a chance that a theft might take notice.

Daily driving an R is a bad idea IMO. Unless you sleep in your car with a 12 gauge.

 

well thats where you messed up you left it outside over night. never do that i mean i drive my type r everwhere but i park it inside the garage everynight.

 

cons? are there any?

pros: bling, bling JDM y0!!!!

 

yup main reason i bought an R is because there more cosmetic things made for it rather then a civic.