Hey guys i'm looking at buying PIC Selects or AMR coilovers for my DC4. I'm lookin for the best quality, and just some inputs on which coilover has a better feel. The main purpose for the coilover is handling so lmk which one you guys would choose

 

I would have to go with pic, because they have way more feedback and i've never heard anything negative about them.

 

x2 on the PIC's heard all great stuff about them,

 

I use PIC Selects R3 on my 97 civic race car and it has been performing well this past season.

 

I will have to go with AMR. Besides the fact that I own a set, AMR uses Hypercoil springs and lifetime warranty. Both have good customer service but I went with AMR for my Ek build and now my daily will have a set soon.

Taken from Hyperco website-

Hyperco components are utilized by championship winning teams world wide- NASCAR Nextel Cup, Formula One, Indy Racing League, SCCA, NASCAR Busch series, NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series, Grass Roots Oval Track, Endurance Sports Cars, Off Road, Motorcycles "Hyperco components are a part of winning from Late Models to Nextel Cup"...Formula Ford to Formula One, (Hypercoils have been utilized by every Indianapolis 500 winner since 1965

 

this is easy, AMR, everything is built to spec. it's not even really a fair comparison since AMR is a good deal more costly the PIC. your budget is the factor here, not which to choose.

 

What sideways says is true, Andy valved my shocks to handle up to 14k - 12k. But I won't be running close to that right now.

 

Why would you do that? Why would you run something that isn't matched?

 

Because the person who built the shock told me that it would be able to run my street rates comfortably. He said the shock will be able to handle the stiffer rates with no problem ride and warranty wise.

 

I don't often chime in on these sorts of threads, but I feel its necessary to question the "built to spec" claim. There is no life-threatening danger if the claim is misleading of course, but I believe it may be misrepresentative of value because some users feel that they need a truly custom-built shock, and I can see that being pretty high on some peoples' list of factors when looking at coilovers.

Granted, those who truly need a custom-valved shock are not often looking at this range of coilovers so at the end of the day its not a huge deal.

 

But if price range is close to the items you are comparing why not go with the lifetime warranty and more options?

 

I've been very happy with my PIC selects. I've never driven AMR's, so can't compare them, but I think that the PICs are an excellent choice for the money.

 

The "lifetime warranty" discussion is real can of worms that I don't think is worth opening.

On the other hand, price should be some reflection of value, and that is definitely what I am asking. Do people think that they are paying for a custom-built shock?

 

personally, i think "matched" shock/spring sets are nothing more than a marketing ploy. if you were even going to attempt this the shock and sping need to be set for one car. not civic/integra. just one or the other, the weight is different and so is the weight transfer. even if you look at a car that's fairly sporty stock like a z06, you could say the springs and shocks are matched. i mean gm developed them for that car right? only sort of. they had to address things like old men driving down the freeway. the tires staying in contact on rough surfaces and a whole host of other things. if someone was trying to "match" a set for the track it's totally different than a street setup. furthermore driving preference is a big part of this "matching" one person may enjoy how a car feels with a lot of rebound, others like myself would dial it back and let the car float slightly more. so again, what is "matched" ?

 

So waiting for the correct shims for my shock that was being built wasn't custom built to my spec? Is that what you are saying? Do you set the shim stack for PIC shocks yourself or are your shocks massed produced?

 

I'm not saying, I'm asking. We don't custom build shocks, but if we did it'd involve more than waiting for shims.

 

Well AMR had most of the parts in stock for my setup and they just had to wait on the shims so it took a little while longer to get to me. As for the warranty issue I have already been assured that it would be taken care so I am not worrying about that either.

AMR uses Hyperco which have a lifetime warranty on their own. GC uses Eibach also tried and true. BTW what springs do you use?

 

I realized my post may have been read by some as a bash - it's not. I just mean custom-anything is a lengthy, involved process that we aren't prepared to take on yet.

Our springs have no name brand, they are simply the springs that come as part of the package. The day I feel that our some or all of our users really need something "higher-end", I will consider other options. For now, these springs are sufficient for this price-point and this target user.

 

1. My set was ordered on 9/9/09 (haha didn't even notice this before) and didn't arrive until 10/15/09 but 15 of the those days were due to shipping. At my job if you can't service(complete tear down and rebuild) 1 hydraulic cylinder following the manual step by step in 4 hours and pass the quality check your pretty much gonna get fired. So multiply that by 4 and you got 12 hours. My set took a little more time than that.

2. I see your point in not using name brand springs, in the 15 years of doing my suspension I have never had a spring failure and that was using from ebay - Ohlins.

 

AMR Engineering.

Lifetime Warranty

all parts sourced and built here in the US!!! no Taiwan stuff

every coilover set built to customer specs/needs

Hyperco springs used!!!

no customer shock has ever blown to date!

 

if it's better quality i would go with the AMR's for a number of reasons. i like stuff made in the USA, not overseas, and AMR builds coilovers to YOUR specs..so handling would be superior over other coilover sets which usually have only one or two spring rates to choose from. hyperco springs are used on the AMR's, and the quality of hyperco is 2nd to none.


so, unless you're really price conscious, IMHO it's AMR hands down.

AMR can even source cheaper springs and what not if you specifically ask for that...to bring price down.

however, for what PIC offers...it's a good value. but if you want top tier, you have my opinion on that.

 

No disrespect to AMR but what if AMR goes out of business??? Has anybody thought about that? There lifetime warranty is great, dont get me wrong but if AMR ever goes under your warranty is worth nothing. Who knows AMR may never go under but the lifetime warranty coilovers are just too good to be true. When compared to autozone's lifetime warranty at least you'd get a decent assurance that autozone will still be standing a decade from now. As for a small based coilover company doing the same, I doubt it.

AMR reps, no disprespect towards you guys. Its just my opinion...

PIC's are #1 in my book.

 

Not trying to bash AMR as I have no experience directly with them. However i simply don't believe anyone who claims all parts source/built in the US. Its generally word play. Made in the US typically means purchased from a company with a US address and possibly even assembled in the US.

 

I had great customer service from AMR. Andy called me many times and we discussed the plans for the car and they built exactly what I needed.

Im still running the same AMR coilovers that I have for years now and still love them.

 

Andy builds great coilovers. My vote is for AMR.