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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Default Is this a good deal for $2800?

http://anchorage.craigslist.org/pts/1415863545.html

im thinking about picking this up for my 93 auto and swap it to manual
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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I'd ask for a pic of the "C5" on the block.

Seeing how it's GS-R for everything else, it couls actually just be a C1 with a red VC and ITR intake.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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i emailed him that But if it is, good deal?
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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pending on low-ish mileage, and if it is a COMPLETE swap, including ECU and everything needed, than I would say sure.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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if its all real

thats about the normal price

for a swap
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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yeah, make sure everythings all real. if it is, i guess thatd be pretty good.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by d4rk13l4de
i emailed him that But if it is, good deal?
If numbers match I would say its a pretty good deal --
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rotasol
Seeing how it's GS-R for everything else, it couls actually just be a C1 with a red VC and ITR intake.
An ITR intake manifold wont bolt up to GS-R head. The bolt pattern is different, so at the very least its got a PR3 B16A/B17A/ITR head on it.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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An ITR intake manifold wont bolt up to GS-R head. The bolt pattern is different, so at the very least its got a PR3 B16A/B17A/ITR head on it.
skunk2 makes a itr replica intake manifold that does in fact bolt up to a gsr. i think thats what he meant.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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skunk2 makes a itr replica intake manifold that does in fact bolt up to a gsr. i think thats what he meant.
They do indeed, but I doubt thats what he meant. SK2 Intake manifolds say Skunk2 very clearly on the top. The one pictured in the ad is definately just a plain old ITR manifold.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
They do indeed, but I doubt thats what he meant. SK2 Intake manifolds say Skunk2 very clearly on the top. The one pictured in the ad is definately just a plain old ITR manifold.
actually you are infact incorrect, they also make a gen1 manifold that looks pretty close to the itr, and doesnt say skunk2 on it at all. i have one,and there are alot for sale on c/l, ebay, and other honda forums.
also, maybe he didnt mean that. but oh well. hopefully if the op does purchase this motor, he doesnt get screwed over on it , because there are alot of dishonest people on the web selling parts that are not as described.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by teamjdm239
actually you are infact incorrect, they also make a gen1 manifold that looks pretty close to the itr, and doesnt say skunk2 on it at all. i have one,and there are alot for sale on c/l, ebay, and other honda forums.
After doing a little digging around it would seem that you are infact correct. Found a pic of one for sale and it does look pretty much identical to a real ITR IM. All i've ever seen before were the newer versions that say Skunk2 on the top of them, I never even knew there was an older version. Good info.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
After doing a little digging around it would seem that you are infact correct. Found a pic of one for sale and it does look pretty much identical to a real ITR IM. All i've ever seen before were the newer versions that say Skunk2 on the top of them, I never even knew there was an older version. Good info.
no prob, a buddy and i both have one, xs power also makes one but it visibly shows xs power on the top, so its not as close to a replica as the s2. but glad to see you did your research :D
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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well that's a b18c5 engine alright. Being that its being more difficult to find a usdm b18c5 engine without any mods.. and even more rare to find one in a whole piece including the original transmission without any mods. But for that price its an okay deal. He is also including other parts like dual radiator and stuff like that so lets see how far he can go.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by raidacaipo
well that's a b18c5 engine alright. Being that its being more difficult to find a usdm b18c5 engine without any mods.. and even more rare to find one in a whole piece including the original transmission without any mods. But for that price its an okay deal. He is also including other parts like dual radiator and stuff like that so lets see how far he can go.
I would be worried for that price that its an oil burner -- 2800 for an ITR head/block/tranny with extras seems like he is desperate -- maybe he is and its a win but I would love to see it running before I bought it personally -- as is out of the car its all taking someone's word and these days...good luck

Like I said before the price really isnt the issue so much as the questionable condition of the motor...C5 stamp or not...why would someone want to sell a perfectly running C5 swap for so little?
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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if it's legit, it's a good deal
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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It's just an ITR longblock apparently.

The tranny is from a GS-R.


And yes I was talking about the ITR rep that looks exactly like an OEM ITR intake.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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You can also tell by the throttle bracket; wether its push or pull towards the driverside or pass side
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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idk even if it is an oil burner, generally isn't it a good idea to replace the usual gaskets and belts and what not as a safety precaution? IMO it would be worth the peace of mind to buy a swap and have it looked over and if needed re ringed, just so it is more reliable. that and check the head for warpage. i know it seems kind of over excessive, but who wants to swap a motor into their car (unless it was running perfectly when pulled and the purchaser visually saw it) if they don't know forsure that everything is good on it?

just some food for thought
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by d4rk13l4de
http://anchorage.craigslist.org/pts/1415863545.html

im thinking about picking this up for my 93 auto and swap it to manual

i disagree.. id just by the whole car with that swap for less than that price.. that is exactly what i did if that matters.. I'm just going to swap my d16 into that car and use it as my winter car as my car is rust free, vise versa... It all depends on what you want to do or what you can do..
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 05:46 AM
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well i emailed him and still have heard nothing back so my guess is its either hot or not a real c5
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