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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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What can be expected from i,h,e,intake mani, tb, decent bisi cam and a tune?

Is it worth the cash or just go h22? Basically can you see 180-200chp?
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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that should be easy with the right parts. use the money you would use to swap to buy more parts for the f22.Bisi all the way

chp?your looking for crank horsepower?
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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you can make those F22 run bro

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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Crank horsepower. Wheel horsepower is what you are looking for.


By the way which f22 do you have?

The a1 puts out 125 whp and 137 lb-ft in the accord and 135 whp in the prelude because of a more aggressive pcm and tune

The a4 puts out 130 whp and 142 lb-ft same engine as the a1 but had bigger header and exhaust pipes.

The a6 puts out 140 whp and also 142 lb-ft but at a higher rpm then the a4. Same as the a1 but had a more aggressive cam and pcm, and even bigger header and exhaust pipes for more of a free flow.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 03:29 AM
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I was thinking crank hp as i was comparing to a stock h22?

The way i look at is if i have to dump $1000 into the engine to get to 200 Chp i might as well swap and h22 and start with a better platform all together, right?

And i have a 94 LX so i have an f22b2 i believe, that i would be willing to throw a vtec head on if necessary
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 03:30 AM
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Basically gurus out there what is the cheapest way to get to 200chp? Dont tell me a 75 shot cause that will be after the fact lol
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 05:28 AM
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So you posted a public poll here on H-T. Wanting to know the peoples thoughts between an H22 swap and boosting your F. You voted to go H22 while the poll results point you towards boosting your F22B2. Now your posting this question. Why?

You obviously see your F22B2 as a useless engine and require some sort of affirmation to do the H22 swap. So I say, Sell me your junk/scrap F22B2 for $150/shipped to my door. Then go out and do the $1000 H22 swap you urn for so much. Honestly I would love to see a strong running and reliable $1000 H22 swap myself!

It will cost you more than $1000 to get 170Whp (approx. 200 Chp.....) out of your F22B2. The H22 swap with a proper tune-up, intake and exhaust would be the cheapest way to get to 200chp Naturally Aspirated...(I'm still lmao at Chp)
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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So you posted a public poll here on H-T. Wanting to know the peoples thoughts between an H22 swap and boosting your F. You voted to go H22 while the poll results point you towards boosting your F22B2. Now your posting this question. Why?

You obviously see your F22B2 as a useless engine and require some sort of affirmation to do the H22 swap. So I say, Sell me your junk/scrap F22B2 for $150/shipped to my door. Then go out and do the $1000 H22 swap you urn for so much. Honestly I would love to see a strong running and reliable $1000 H22 swap myself!

It will cost you more than $1000 to get 170Whp (approx. 200 Chp.....) out of your F22B2. The H22 swap with a proper tune-up, intake and exhaust would be the cheapest way to get to 200chp Naturally Aspirated...(I'm still lmao at Chp)
LOL. but so true.

Intake, exhaust 2.5in, Bisi header(on sale if you can find it), Bisi level 2 cam Only because your looking for 200 crank whp. Very are a few F22's thast are putting down more than 150 whp with cam, intake, header, exhaust and tuning.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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I have never seen anyone looking for crank horsepower, but you can use the f-series for some really nice n/a build, and you said you want 200chp (approx 170 whp) , so a good bisi stg 2 cam, a good header, and exhaust system, maybe some sort of setup where you can have a good ram air intake into your car like ghost's (it is sick) and maybe some bigger throttle body and a decent p&p on the head, but i cant see 170 hp too difficult to pull out of a n/a f22.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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my f22b1 dyno 152whp and 153wtq with just a tune up and a aem short ram . im using just bolt ons and i should be around 180 hp no on stock block with 62mm b-series tb good header same short ram light flywheel stage 3 clutch full 2.5 exhaust made by me . my car is 3200 with and ran 15.6 at 89.8 and it has 220k
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by teambumspray
my f22b1 dyno 152whp and 153wtq with just a tune up and a aem short ram . im using just bolt ons and i should be around 180 hp no on stock block with 62mm b-series tb good header same short ram light flywheel stage 3 clutch full 2.5 exhaust made by me . my car is 3200 with and ran 15.6 at 89.8 and it has 220k
You have one very....very strong F22B1 there my friend.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by teambumspray
my f22b1 dyno 152whp and 153wtq with just a tune up and a aem short ram . im using just bolt ons and i should be around 180 hp no on stock block with 62mm b-series tb good header same short ram light flywheel stage 3 clutch full 2.5 exhaust made by me . my car is 3200 with and ran 15.6 at 89.8 and it has 220k
I agree with ghost. That is a very strong engine.

I thought my a4 was strong since when it was new it was throwin down 140 whp. I figure that the hundred thousand that is on the motor (junkyard a4 to a4 swap. Just needed to get it back on the road since it is my dd) has worn the motor to an extent, then with some bolt-ons (short ram, exhaust) its prolly turning out right around 145 whp.

I do have a question in this. Resonator removal? Allows the exhaust to flow more freely right? What, if any, would you say would be the whp increase on the a4 i currently run? Or does it just make the car louder with little to no increase in performance? Also any change to fuel mileage?

im too broke for a dyno run so i just ball park whp.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Accord tuner
Crank horsepower. Wheel horsepower is what you are looking for.


By the way which f22 do you have?

The a1 puts out 125 whp and 137 lb-ft in the accord and 135 whp in the prelude because of a more aggressive pcm and tune

The a4 puts out 130 whp and 142 lb-ft same engine as the a1 but had bigger header and exhaust pipes.

The a6 puts out 140 whp and also 142 lb-ft but at a higher rpm then the a4. Same as the a1 but had a more aggressive cam and pcm, and even bigger header and exhaust pipes for more of a free flow.
Wrong. The numbers you posted are not stock WHP of those engines. The a1 puts down maybe 105whp, while the a6 makes around 115whp.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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hey fatboy1185, that guy prolly meant to say SAE Net?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by teambumspray
my f22b1 dyno 152whp and 153wtq with just a tune up and a aem short ram . im using just bolt ons and i should be around 180 hp no on stock block with 62mm b-series tb good header same short ram light flywheel stage 3 clutch full 2.5 exhaust made by me . my car is 3200 with and ran 15.6 at 89.8 and it has 220k
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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I have this motor! Looking for a tranny, anybody know where to scoop one?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by teambumspray
my f22b1 dyno 152whp and 153wtq with just a tune up and a aem short ram . im using just bolt ons and i should be around 180 hp no on stock block with 62mm b-series tb good header same short ram light flywheel stage 3 clutch full 2.5 exhaust made by me . my car is 3200 with and ran 15.6 at 89.8 and it has 220k
you made 152 to the wheels with a tune up and intake? i have the same motor i have a dc sports header, aem sri and greddy sp2 and i dont think i have that much to the wheels am i missing something lol?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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No your not... I didn't wave the BS flag but I did say that it was very...very strong...trying to be sarcastic in the hopes that more than one person would notice his BS......
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by teambumspray
my f22b1 dyno 152whp and 153wtq with just a tune up and a aem short ram . im using just bolt ons and i should be around 180 hp no on stock block with 62mm b-series tb good header same short ram light flywheel stage 3 clutch full 2.5 exhaust made by me . my car is 3200 with and ran 15.6 at 89.8 and it has 220k
I"m sorry but I HIGHLY doubt you have made 12whp and torque to the wheels more than the car made in 1997.

Over 12 years you'd be lucky to have 112 whp. Nice try though.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Accord93RR
I have this motor! Looking for a tranny, anybody know where to scoop one?
Local Junk Yard would be your best bet.

If you are looking for something with a Limited Slip Differential (LSD). Then you would have to look at a JDM importer or online sale forums.

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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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The F22B2 makes about 130 hp to the crank. You are looking to gain close to 200 chp. It can be done. A level 2 Bisimoto camshaft will provide you with a 15 percent increase in horsepower. That puts you at 149.5 chp. Look into their products.

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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Accord tuner
Crank horsepower. Wheel horsepower is what you are looking for.


By the way which f22 do you have?

The a1 puts out 125 whp and 137 lb-ft in the accord and 135 whp in the prelude because of a more aggressive pcm and tune

The a4 puts out 130 whp and 142 lb-ft same engine as the a1 but had bigger header and exhaust pipes.

The a6 puts out 140 whp and also 142 lb-ft but at a higher rpm then the a4. Same as the a1 but had a more aggressive cam and pcm, and even bigger header and exhaust pipes for more of a free flow.
These were the advertised HP ratings by Honda in 1991 according to sources. I researched them. Originally found the ratings on Wikipedia.com, not the most reliable resource but, the ratings were collaborated by numorous other sources. Including our very own H-T. Weather these are crank or wheel HP ratings was not confirmed. It could also be SAE net. Again not confirmed. Kinda hard to find Honda advertisments from 1991 almost 20 years later. I don't even think I want to start on the b engines.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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No car advertisement is wheel horse power, it's all crank horse power. Big difference.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fatboy1185
No car advertisement is wheel horse power, it's all crank horse power. Big difference.
i stand corrected. a few of the sources must have had they're own idea of these ratings and decided that they must be whp.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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what do u guys suggest i do my f22b1 has 93k miles and is auto should i just leave it be till i graduate and swap a jdm h22 or build the f?
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