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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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hey new to the whole audio thing im more about making power and goin fast but its nice to have the right sound while doing so....so with that said i dont like crazy amounts of bass just pretty much alil more than wat my current stock replacement spreakers put out...do any of u know anything about this speaker...remember im not one to be the loudest on the block just enough bass for me to enjoy

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=22380

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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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get a decent hu, with some front components on a 2 ch amp

most component speakers can dig pretty low into the 60-70hz range so unless u want loud chest hitting bass go with some comps on decent power...
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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i would get a nice alpine hu, some good componet speakers, and a single 10/12 with about 300-500 watts.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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any other opinions somebody that has a "tube" style sub...likes/dislikes?
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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I have a JL audio 10" w7 in my car and its the perfect amount of bass. Expensive but definitely worth it.
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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better out there for the money
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 06:37 AM
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im tight on money and i dont want to spend an *** load on a bad *** sub that um not gona use to its full potential i mean it only 100bux for the the enclosed sub and its got an amp built in
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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if your not looking to "push it to its max" tubes will do as well. i have a friend that has 2 tubes in an F150 and it sounds good for the amount he payed for it.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Vented Subs can reproduce lower frequencies than a sealed sub, but you might consider a sealed sub. All vehicles have what is called cabin gain, a slow rise in base output that usually starts at 70-100 Hz for larger cars (SUVs), or 150 Hz for smaller cars (civic) and lower. Using a ported sub will give you a 'boomy' sound and you can harm the driver if you try to play frequencies lower than the free-air resonance of the driver/enclosure combo, while using a sealed enclosure will be less so. also a sealed enclosure can handle more power without hurting the driver. You didn't state what kind of vehicle it is. I recommend a good sealed 8" sub for listening to classical music, but if you're listening to rap or some other bass heavy stuff, then you would want to get the vented one for the lower freq. response, but be carefull and put an infra-sonic filter on the input of the amp. to keep out the freq. that could harm the driver, say below 30Hz or so.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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sealed enclosures can get low with authority...
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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oh sry like i said im a noob at this stuff lol didnt know it would make a diff. wat car i drive...its goin in a 93 prelude and i mainly just listen to rock like hardcore or metal so theres alot of bass mainly from the drum bass...also i planed on mounting it in the back seat since i dont use them(there way to small) is there anymore info you would need to know?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Audiobahns tend to sound like **** ( to me anyway ).
You could look into the infinity basslink.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LobeSex
oh sry like i said im a noob at this stuff lol didnt know it would make a diff. wat car i drive...its goin in a 93 prelude and i mainly just listen to rock like hardcore or metal so theres alot of bass mainly from the drum bass...also i planed on mounting it in the back seat since i dont use them(there way to small) is there anymore info you would need to know?
if your not going to listen to rap and for certain hits. you don't have too much to worry about.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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honestly if thats what your looking at id just look into some good components, they can have pretty good bass,
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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a nice set of components can get low..but nothing beats a sub imo
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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What kind, [make and model] of HU are you using???

The HU, [source] is the most important part of your system, everything depends on it.

You said, "wat my current stock replacement spreakers put out.." what do you mean by stock replacement speakers?

Good SQ and bass extension can be archived without amps, [off-board] and/or subs, properly installed speakers, [just about any brand or price point]] and a "high power", properly wired, HU will get you what you need.
I run an Alpine HU and 4 Eclipse 6.5" coax speakers in my 94LS, amps and subs are not an option as I autocross the car, like you it's all about going fast, I don't need the ground pounding bass, been there more then once over the years, and as long as Billy Idol's White wedding sounds like I have a sub, [it does] and I can hear Frank Zappa play the guitar clearly, I'm good to go.

Although "bass tubes" can sound OK, placement of the tube can be/is critical, although I do agree with mrdeadman audiobahn tubes sound like crap, as most audiobahn stuff does, IMO. you can do better with a basslink or bazooka, or just about anything else.94
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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^^this is the HU im running not the best but it made my speakers alot clearer and louder then my stock HU...id say it enhanced the quilty and sound by 90%
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4744710
also the speakers i relaced my stock ones with r...these
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4541645 and they sound great same front and back
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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What kind, [make and model] of HU are you using???

The HU, [source] is the most important part of your system, everything depends on it.

You said, "wat my current stock replacement spreakers put out.." what do you mean by stock replacement speakers?

Good SQ and bass extension can be archived without amps, [off-board] and/or subs, properly installed speakers, [just about any brand or price point]] and a "high power", properly wired, HU will get you what you need.
I run an Alpine HU and 4 Eclipse 6.5" coax speakers in my 94LS, amps and subs are not an option as I autocross the car, like you it's all about going fast, I don't need the ground pounding bass, been there more then once over the years, and as long as Billy Idol's White wedding sounds like I have a sub, [it does] and I can hear Frank Zappa play the guitar clearly, I'm good to go.

Although "bass tubes" can sound OK, placement of the tube can be/is critical, although I do agree with mrdeadman audiobahn tubes sound like crap, as most audiobahn stuff does, IMO. you can do better with a basslink or bazooka, or just about anything else.94
No it cannot...you sure you know what sq means?
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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No it cannot...you sure you know what sq means?
You have to be kidding me.

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^^this is the HU im running not the best but it made my speakers alot clearer and louder then my stock HU...id say it enhanced the quilty and sound by 90%
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4744710
also the speakers i relaced my stock ones with r...these
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4541645 and they sound great same front and back
Based on your hu and speaker choice you will be fine with the audiobahn sub.
If you really want something that sounds GOOD though you will need a new hu and new speakers.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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i think it sounds great for me just doesnt have the bass i want
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeadman
You have to be kidding me.



Based on your hu and speaker choice you will be fine with the audiobahn sub.
If you really want something that sounds GOOD though you will need a new hu and new speakers.
um...not really

i wanna see someone achieve a sq setup running coaxial speakers off headunit power..
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um...not really

i wanna see someone achieve a sq setup running coaxial speakers off headunit power..
I wanna know exactly what you mean by sq. Because if you mean the sq you can get out of a $15000 home theater audio system you can't get that same quality in a car no matter how much money you spend.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeadman
I wanna know exactly what you mean by sq. Because if you mean the sq you can get out of a $15000 home theater audio system you can't get that same quality in a car no matter how much money you spend.
I guess some people have a different meaning of sq.

IMO

the least you should do in a car audio setup is decent hu, entry level comps, decent 2 ch amp that'll do 70-100x2, and sound deadening.

but to think you'll acheive sq with coaxial speakers being fed dirty power from a hu is just plain wrong...
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by edzy
I guess some people have a different meaning of sq.

IMO

the least you should do in a car audio setup is decent hu, entry level comps, decent 2 ch amp that'll do 70-100x2, and sound deadening.

but to think you'll acheive sq with coaxial speakers being fed dirty power from a hu is just plain wrong...
My integra's stock speakers (components) sounded kick *** running just a hu. I think it really depends on the speakers. I like the sound of paper speakers. Others like the sound of poly speakers. SQ is a very subjective measure. Unless you factor in quantities such as THD, freq response, and s/n of the equipment.
I don't see what you mean by "dirty" power anyway. The power is straight from the source (albeit a small amount of power). There are no 10ft RCAs or even an amp "muddying" up the signal.
The only thing I think you're getting at is a lack of power for the speakers.
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Originally Posted by edzy
No it cannot...you sure you know what sq means?
ROFL...

Yes I am pretty sure I know what SQ is, 30+ years of installing car audio has given me some insight into how to get SQ out of a car audio system, [any system].

Do not confuse SQ with SPL, SQ an be had at any SPL level, you do not need "70-100x2", [140-200 watts of power to get good SQ or a sub for that matter.

LobeSex, although the quality of an $80 HU may not be the best, 4x21W RMS into 4 ohms is pretty good for a HU.

Question, why are you using 5.25" speakers, what is the MM&Y of the car they are in???

Try this, the stock radio harness 12V+ constant and ground leads can not carry the current needed by "high power" aftermarket HU so they can produce their full output, so...

Run a fused 12ga power lead directly from batt. to behind HU and connect HUs 12V+ constant, [yellow] to it, don't forget to cap off the now unused stock 12V+ constant.
Also add a 12ga ground from the chassis of the HU to the cars chassis, [dash sub frame].

The above will increase current flow and increase output from HU, it will also prevent HUs amp from clipping, [distorting] at higher volume levels, better all around SQ.

Have to go to work now but will talk about speakers later, once I have MM&Y of car. 94
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