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NEED INFO ON A N/A D16Y8..IM NOT TRYING TO GO TURBO!!

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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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Default NEED INFO ON A N/A D16Y8..IM NOT TRYING TO GO TURBO!!

WHATS UP GUYS IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOME HELP AND REALLY CANT FIND ANY INFO THATS HELPFUL TO ME..SO HERE IS MY QUESTION

HOW CAN I GET MORE HP WITH OUT GOING TURBO/NITROUS??

I GOT COLD AIR INTAKE HEADERS 2-1/2 PIPING HIGH FLOW CAT AND A
Megan Racing 2.5" M-OE Muffler..I WANT TO GO WIT STAGE 2 CAMS AND ADJUSTABLE CAM GEARS..IF SO WHAT PARTS ARE NEEDED?..THANX FOR ALL UR HELP IN ADVANCE
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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You only have one cam and one cam gear so you need that of course, then you need ti retainers and dual springs to run the cam. You'll need a tune so that means going obd1 if you havent already. And you'll idle really rough for dd not toention you'll lose your fuel economy. You'll still be slower and more expensive than a b18b swap
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Money down the drain. I hate to break it to you, but if you searched you already know...all motor single cam builds are a joke. At least the parts you have already can easily be adapted to a b-series swap except the header.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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I'm with MHdesigns.

Single cams can be fast, but it will be money down the drain, not a fun DD, and still wont be any faster than a B swap.

Just either turbo it because we all know D series loves it and call it a day.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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You can turbo for good prices these days. look into the boost forum.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 03:12 AM
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i'll let you decide the pros and cons and what you "should" do with your own car since i don't really care...

to answer your question: what you need is a stack of cash, an innate urge to go against the grain and login credentials for a few of the single cam specific forums -so you can see what other guys have had to go through to make power.

enjoy!
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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b18b swap huh?? then go ls-vtec?...so u say i have to go odb1 for better tunning?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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what i need to do is look up pricing on both i was thinkin bout going at least b-series but i only got 8 racks to spend on the car..i dnt think i could find a b18b with tranny, mounts, harness, links, axles..do i need the ecu if i was gona go b18? or can i use the one i have?
its a off a ex..thats a p2p right?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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you cant tune an obd2 ecu.
get a conversion harness from obd2 to obd1 with a chipd p72 or p28
ITBs are $700 but can help with those..i mean that cam. with a super header and a tad more compression, that is alot of money spent when you will be as fast as a gsr motor....
this has been covered a million times. i take it you havent had a turbod motor?
turbo that y8 and see if you dont like it.....i bet youl get addicted and then blow it up after turning up the boost again and again. the youl get a Bseries swap and turbo that then keep turning it up on that...you are about to fall into a viscious money pit....careful
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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what i need to do is look up pricing on both i was thinkin bout going at least b-series but i only got 8 racks to spend on the car..i dnt think i could find a b18b with tranny, mounts, harness, links, axles..do i need the ecu if i was gona go b18? or can i use the one i have?
its a off a ex..thats a p2p right?
what are racks? i live in a corn feild...
is it $? 8k...dude.. $8k will get you a realy fast car.
gsr swap $1200 (craigslist.com)
turbo kit ($1000)
tune (300-400)
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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I speak from personal experience when I say it's just not worth it. I spent alot of time and money on my d16y8 and was never happy with it. I've gone through multiple cams, I had the engine rebuilt with higher compression, I had the skunk 2 manifold, cam gear, ecu work, a whole new fuel system, i/h/e...the list goes on. I never got out of the 16 second bracket, except when I was on spray. The car also ran incredibly rough and had constant problems regardless of the tune, and those transmissions can't take a beating like a B can. Learn from my mistakes and do a swap or go turbo. I have a stock gsr now and it pulls harder than my d16 ever did. I wanted to be different, well sometimes different is stupid. Boost your car.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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without boost ur just throwing money away on a d series. seriously man not worth it.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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psst! i wish $8k..lol..naw man $800..so go b-series..this is gona be a DD and i live in south central l.a i cant have boost out here major ref ticket..and what u mean by chiped ecu what kind of chip?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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get an obd2 to obd1 adapter. then
get a vtec obd1 ecu and have it chipd or buy it chipd from ebay
then you can buy a chip from ebay and have it made to your specs $20 (i/e/h etc)
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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yea i heard u on the jumper harness..
what brand of chip do u recommend?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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what about jun is that a good brand? just looked it up on ebay.. for 28 bux is that good or ebay junk?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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there is no brand. radio shack sells them but they will have empty data on them.
theres a guy called xenocron or somthing like that he makes chips and send them to you and you can plug it in the socket in the chipd ecu and the ecu will have a new program
you can find him in the tuning/.engine management threads. he also has a website
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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http://www.xenocron.com/
he can make one specific for you car
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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good lookin out..im checking wrecking yards right now for b18b swap see how much more i need to get on..and one more thing would the mount of the b18 fit or would i have to look in to conversion mounts?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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you can use the same mounts except the driver side and rear T bracket
mounts you can get for like $50 on criagslist
www.craigslist.com is your best friend
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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whats the closest big city near you?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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not for everything..one thing i wont buy from craigslist is engines no trannys..bad experience
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i live in l.a
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sea...min&maxAsk=max
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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iv bought many, you just gotta be smart about it
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