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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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this is for my uncle's 95 Accord DX F22B2 5 speed 195k
So I'm driving the car, all in a sudden the engine starts missing like crazy. So pop the hood up and I see what looks like a mix of water and gas draining from what looks like a valve under the Charcoal Canister. Once its done draining, the car runs fine for a while and then does it again. Could this mean the canister is bad? I've never seen this before, plus driving with a missing motor and no muffler isn't really enjoyable. :/
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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Could be that its bad. Try getting one from the junkyard to see if it'll fix the problem. I don't see why that would affect the motor though; unless, the canister is full or clogged up and no vacuum can enter or exit.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 06:17 AM
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I'll try getting one from the junk yard and see if it fixes it. thanks.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by davey5300
this is for my uncle's 95 Accord DX F22B2 5 speed 195k
So I'm driving the car, all in a sudden the engine starts missing like crazy. So pop the hood up and I see what looks like a mix of water and gas draining from what looks like a valve under the Charcoal Canister. Once its done draining, the car runs fine for a while and then does it again. Could this mean the canister is bad? I've never seen this before, plus driving with a missing motor and no muffler isn't really enjoyable. :/
I don't suspect the canister, but I do suspect the valves controlling it.
has the "Check Engine Lamp" been coming on?

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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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seems like some helpful info

Originally Posted by http://www.familycar.com/CLASSROOM/emission.htm

EVAPORATIVE CONTROLS

Gasoline evaporates quite easily. In the past, these evaporative emissions were vented into the atmosphere. 20% of all HC emissions from the automobile are from the gas tank. In 1970 legislation was passed, prohibiting venting of gas tank fumes into the atmosphere. An evaporative control system was developed to eliminate this source of pollution. The function of the fuel evaporative control system is to trap and store evaporative emissions from the gas tank and carburetor. A charcoal canister is used to trap the fuel vapors. The fuel vapors adhere to the charcoal, until the engine is started, and engine vacuum can be used to draw the vapors into the engine, so that they can be burned along with the fuel/air mixture. This system requires the use of a sealed gas tank filler cap. This cap is so important to the operation of the system, that a test of the cap is now being integrated into many state emission inspection programs. Pre-1970 cars released fuel vapors into the atmosphere through the use of a vented gas cap. Today with the use of sealed caps, redesigned gas tanks are used. The tank has to have the space for the vapors to collect so that they can then be vented to the charcoal canister. A purge valve is used to control the vapor flow into the engine. The purge valve is operated by engine vacuum. One common problem with this system is that the purge valve goes bad and engine vacuum draws fuel directly into the intake system. This enriches the fuel mixture and will foul the spark plugs. Most charcoal canisters have a filter that should be replaced periodically. This system should be checked when fuel mileage drops.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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No CEL
QUOTE=P_Adams;40173648]I don't suspect the canister, but I do suspect the valves controlling it.
has the "Check Engine Lamp" been coming on?


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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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Alright so My uncle brought the car to a mechanic and he told him that it has to do with the pressure system in the tank. He told him the same info that Andryzzle provided^^^ And if he drives with the gas cap lose then it runs fine.
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