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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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ive been saving up money for a suspension upgrade. and from what i had seen in here, everybody gives props to the koni's with the ground control coilovers. and a guy from pann auto in sandiego recomend me the buddyclub suspension,, because it was cheaper and it was good for a dd basis. i just want to have my car drop and have it smooth as possible for a daily driven basis... what do you guys recomend me..
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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I have buddy club race spec
and they can slam your car and ride awsome
at the same time. Best suspension I've ridden in

I know GC w/ tophats can slam the **** out your car but I dont know about ride
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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[QUOTE=jason.az1;40158715]I have buddy club race spec
and they can slam your car and ride awsome
at the same time. Best suspension I've ridden in

what about the N+spec damper do you have info on those??
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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I just sold the N Spec+ to buy Koni's. The ride sucks *** compared to Koni/GC.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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anybody else had thesse.??
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 04:59 AM
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I've driven a couple of cars with the N+ set up. They both rode horribly. they both bounced way too much. go with the koni/gc for sure. Do some searches on which spring rate you should run, what you want from the ride is important when doing this.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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The N+ is not a setup I would recommend for a DD. It's pretty harsh, and the dampers are valved for higher spring rates.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
I just sold the N Spec+ to buy Koni's. The ride sucks *** compared to Koni/GC.
did we ever get around to figuring out what "ride" was around here?
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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go with the RSD
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
did we ever get around to figuring out what "ride" was around here?
Not smooth or bouncy is my definition. Pretty much the shocks were valved for some ridiculous spring rates then what the came with.
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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ok it seems ima go with the GC/KY.. now what spring rate you guys recommend me for my 98 ek hatch ,rite now it has a single cam but im planning to drop a b series in there.
what spring rate i should get,, i want to be slammed and do a couple of circuit races..
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Just remember to set the dampening control when you are testing them. I have 400f/450r with damp control about 60% in front and about 75% in rear. If I recall it takes 16 'marks' on the adjustment **** to go from full soft to full stiff. Use a nut for reference while turning.

The Koni/GC setup is much better than the KYB/GC I have previously. Slightly different rates, but the shocks make one hell of a difference.
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Dont mean to thread jack, dont really feel like making a quick ? thread so...

When you adjust the Koni sports, can the suspension be compressed or does it have to be in the air, full droop?
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by blaze the chemi
Just remember to set the dampening control when you are testing them. I have 400f/450r with damp control about 60% in front and about 75% in rear. If I recall it takes 16 'marks' on the adjustment **** to go from full soft to full stiff. Use a nut for reference while turning.

The Koni/GC setup is much better than the KYB/GC I have previously. Slightly different rates, but the shocks make one hell of a difference.
there are no marks or clicks on konis
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Honda Rules
Dont mean to thread jack, dont really feel like making a quick ? thread so...

When you adjust the Koni sports, can the suspension be compressed or does it have to be in the air, full droop?
When you adjust the shock (Koni Sports) they can be adjusted anytime because the adjustment is at the top of the shock.

Originally Posted by idrivesideways
there are no marks or clicks on konis
Not on the shock....I'm talking about the white **** used to turn the adjustment. The **** has little bumps on it and I use those bumps from either full stiff or full soft to determine where I am at in the spectrum. I use a bolt in the background as a reference for my eyes.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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I bought BC N+ Spec probably back in june or july. I haven't installed them yet but i just hope they're not as bad as you guys are making them out to be
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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i love the koni/gc been drive it for year .. i have a extra set iam try to let go only for 450 obo ... it ride very smooth .. u can slam ur car low .. and drifth it all the way . one of the best shock and spring ..
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Default Re: buddy club N+spec damper vs Koni/groun control

I had the N+ on my ep and wasn't happy.Rode a tad bit on the stiff side.Gonna go with koni/GC and see what happens
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DrZFiNeSt
I had the N+ on my ep and wasn't happy.Rode a tad bit on the stiff side.Gonna go with koni/GC and see what happens
Night and day difference!
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