I'm having real bad second thoughts. I was going to order the motor and everything yesterday then it kept adding up and I need a shop to install it and make me an exhaust. 98+ spec B18C Type R motor, brand new 32mm B series axles, Hasport Race mounts, all mounts and brackets even for AC and PS, Type R gold shift linkage and polished shifter and ****, everything needed to put it in besides small stuff i'm told like throttle cable, radiator hoses but I think the shop that would be installing the motor would be aware of it. Anyways $5075 shipped for all of that. Then $750 for the shop to install and do the exhaust. Might have it tuned there idk total is $6000 +/- some. Now would you pay that? Is it worth dropping all of this money into my 96 Civic EX coupe? Should I just buy another car?

 

Wrong section.

On the side note, thats reasonable price for a 98+ B18C-R

 

just do it yourself, and with a friend that knows how, thats what im gonna do, im getting some hella cheap awesome stuff,
imo "cheap&old + love = awesomeness & full pocket

my 95 dx was $500, and the h23 im looking @ is about $300-$280 all that plus all the small other stuff, i will have a farly cheap 300 = -hp car

but im gonna put a few gs in the motor n suspension before i drop it in.

when i turbo it, i want to push 400hp, but ill be happy with the 300s

any way

in my opinion. i would NOT spend $5000 for it.

 

http://www.tigerjapanese.com/index.p...mart&Itemid=26 swap for under 4k. just buy some integra axles. as for ac, ps ect...just go to the junk yard. $6k is alot of money for a swap + installation. way too much in my opinion. further more, IMO type r is over rated for the money. i'd go with a gsr swap for half the price.

 

True... Go with the GSR. and save the rest of the money for maintenance and a custom turbo kit and tuning.

I've spent less than 6k on my GSR. 2700 for the swap, 400 for the install, 1800 for the custom turbo kit pieced together by yours truly, 500 for turbo install, 200 for the tune. 7 psi = 250whp/185 ft torque and toooo much fun on the street. GSRs can take 7 psi all day with no problems, just get it tuned.

 

1) thats not a 98+ spec motor. 2) yeah its a swap but that doesnt mean it drops right in. I need the mounts, axles, a little bit of wire extensions. The 98+ from them is $3500, then add shipping and handling. Then the mounts and brackets and axles. Does it have a guarantee like HMOTORS? I would install it myself but I have never done or even seen a swap performed and I dont have an engine hoist. I dont see how the R is overrated either. Best transmission, comes with LSD, lightened flywheel, better flowing head, everything balanced. with an intake, exhaust and tune i'm told I could make around 220WHP Theres a guy making 207WHP on his stock R just tuned. Even people that are not in a professional shop charge like $400 to swap or help me swap it. What if I try to do it myself and I dont have the right tool or I cant figure out where something goes then i'm SOL because its my daily. IDK so i'm guessing everyone thinks its a waste of money

 

im researching every second im not doing something else, cause i do not want to pay some cowboy mechanics down here to rig everything anyways, when i could do it with my family, if something messes up, ill know what it is,
idk, im a do it yourself guy.

 

if i rent or buy an engine hoist, and i have various sockets and wrenches. I have an electric impact gun or w/e not air powered. What about ball joints or something for the axles? I just want to know exactly what I need to do because it will save me about $500 which is a lot of money. I would love to do it myselfI like turning my own wrenches when i know what i'm doing but this i dont have any help without paying someone. I was hoping someone would be generous to come over and help me out i'll pay them and supply food and drinks but most want $400 + and doing it themselves. I'm willing ot help out any bit I can.

 

You realize you ARE in the Accord section right? We rarely rarely touch B series engines. You are best off asking the ITR forum for the pricing of an R motor.

 

oh damn lol i didnt even notice I thought i clicked 92-00 civic. can it be moved or do I start another thread?

 

Easiest might be to report the thread yourself (red hazard icon) and ask for it to be moved, mod's get a pop up when a thread is reported.

 

Good luck with your decision.

 

Oh man, did you screw up. Hopefully the mods will be in a good mood and not ban you outright.

Is the shop installing a custom made exhaust? They can be pricey because of fabrication and fitment time. So 750$ for the install and exhaust work is not bad if done professionally.
On the flip side, if your sweating over $500 on a $6000 swap, then you may need to reset your goals. Because it always is going to end up costing more then you plan for. An alternative may be a B18C1 with an ITR tranny. You can upgrade to ITR valves, cams and some Toda springs as funds become available.

 

1) year of the engine doesn't matter, b series is b series is b series. if your worried about running obd2 or whatever, just use an obd2 harness. 2) i never said it WOULD drop in. yes, you would need mounts.

as for over rated, do some math buddy. dollar/hp is rediculous. i can build a gsr that would walk a ****ing type r for less money than a type r swap. period. yes they offer more factory hp, but a few bolt ons, and 2k into a gsr, and you got yourself a type r smoker. i suggest you do some searching before you start any project on your car. if you're willing to spend 6k on a swap, why not just k swap it? 207 on a stock type r isn't all that impressive, considering they were 195 from the factory. so basically what he did, was pay an ungodly amount of money for the swap, and then spent even more to squeeze 12 hp from it.... think about that with a gsr. spend the other half of the money you saved on a decent turbo kit and a tune, and put down 300hp. so yes, a type r to me, as i stated earlier IMO is a waste of money and is over rated.

 

i think that would be a smart decision

 

your telling me a B18c GSR with a great turbo setup to be completely reliable is going to cost less than $6000? $2600 vs $4200 for the motor. Then $800 to have it to where it will bolt in and be good... $3400, then the $750 for install $4150, forgot to add the LSD $4500 now $1500 left for a turbo kit and tune? That seems way too cheap to price together a good turbo kit.

 

what engine is in your car now?

 

No 1500 will NOT get you a reliable turbo kit an tune.. Maybe a homemade pieced together kit but not a name brand "reliable" "kit".. Do the GSR, stack your cash an soon enough you can bolt the snail to it..

 

If im not mistaken it should be a D16Y8?
No?

 

whats wrong with the D motor?

 

its extremely slow and it doesnt even look good haha. The D16Y8 may be the best D series motor but it still isnt worth much and its $800 to replace the clutch and syncros. You still end up with a motor that has 135,000 miles on it and its slow it just shifts smooth after thats done. I could turbo it, but will it be reliable? Is it worth putting a turbo on it when if I wanted to ever go crazy the HP cap is so much lower. I was told by several people if its your daily dont boost it stay all motor. One shop told me they could get the motor cheaper but then he wanted to use all OEM mounts and used axles... ended up costing more. He said well we could get you a GSR motor and build it up throw some higher compression and new valvetrain. You still have to make up an extra 20HP or so and it wont run with the type r because of the type r's fast revving and short gears. Maybe do a GSR block, ITR head, B16 transmission? Idk it may be faster but i'm also going for show. I tend to get the best of the best when it comes to something. I wanted a EK style Civic but I wouldnt settle for anything lower than a EX. idk its just the way I am whether I have the money or not. I will be holding off on the deal unfortunately to lay my cards out and see what I should and shouldnt do.

 

so here we go with the turbo kit of choice thing again. 1500 will get you a nice kit. you can get an ebay intercooler and piping kit for 200 bucks. master power, (google it smart asses) turbo for 500 bucks, dsm injectors for 60 bucks. fuel pump from xenocron for 69 bucks. then tune. 400 on average for a dyno tune, or 200 or so for a street tune. there's a turbo kit for less than 1500 bucks. do the work yourself, save money there too. read some faq's and learn some stuff before you go diving into this man. you can find gsr swaps on ht here for around 2000-2500 depending on completeness of the swap. as already stated, always allow for more money cause **** happens, and you may need to do something else along the way.

 

i'm sorry but Garrett is the only turbo brand I will use. I dont want a USDM motors with high mileage thats why I want the JDM with low mileage. Think of paying for a car the price varies on mileage. I'm just not a fan of cheap parts because you tend to get what you pay for. I want to buy quality like a Ferrari on a Geo salary lmao

 

uhhh, master power isn't a cheap product. you can buy a garrett for the same price. so you don't want a usdm engine with high miles.... what are the guarantee that a jdm motor will have less mileage anyway? also, ever hear of a rebuild? rings, bearings, and gaskets only cost around 150 bucks. i honestly don't think you know what you are talking about when you say you will only buy garrett not any other brand. sure, you heard its a good turbo, but have you done homework on any other brands before? obviously not. might want to check on some other alternatives before stating what you think is right, and correct. we can go on and on all day long in here, but at the end of the day, you'll still be a noob with no searching experience, and i'll still be explaining stuff to young guys, lol. its a viscious cycle. you should go to the forced induction forum and read a little in there in the faq. also, to answer a previous statement, yes a single cam d series engine can be boosted and remain reliable. again, do some home work and search a little bit.

 

http://www.partsexpressonline.com/cart/ check them out. then compare the quality of them to garrett. they have a VERY good track record. and be realistic about your goals you think you may have.