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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Icon6 How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??

I've heard if you over tighten it can mess up you brakes. How tight should I tighten my wheels?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Huh? It's like 80-85 foot pounds.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 90RENOsedan
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.
I have a gun that you wont ever stop, it will spin away with a snapped off stud in your socket.

85 lb/ft

and yes it can warp your rotors by over torquing. You heard right
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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80 lb-ft, and thats from the helm manual so thats the "official" spec.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Default Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??

It's 80-85, you may or may not need to adapt a few ft lbs for aftermarket wheels.

Yes lugs can be over torqued.

I'm a bit of a retentive man when it comes to this and I will not use a gun it's hand then torque wrench.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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I use a 3/8" impact gun at the lowest setting just to snug them. then the trusty torque wrench at 80lb-ft
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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they should be tight, (80-85 ft/lbs ^), but i dont think i would say till you cant do it anymore by hand. if you're using a 1/2" ratchet then that might be about right. if you're using a 4-way however you could very well break off one of the studs. also, not all air guns are the same. setting the impact gun to its highest setting might not be advisable.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Default Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??

Originally Posted by ***$nyper
you may or may not need to adapt a few ft lbs for aftermarket wheels.
is that for softer material or what? or is that just what those manufactures recommend?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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I use whatever. Sometimes a 3/8 socketwrench, sometimes a 1/2 impact. It's not like I sit there and hammer it down on the impact, only takes a split second or so.

But I never tighten mine too much, there's no reason to. I hate taking others off that are torqued down like crazy. Never had a problem w/ mine comming lose from the cheapest lug nuts available, to expensive ones, from stock steelies to aftermarket aluminum wheels.

People tent to over torque things thinking that it's going to fall off if they don't. It's like hearing about people snapping or stripping bolts/threads on their valve covers when they can be tightened down with your fingers basically. I personally use a screwdriver w/ 10mm socket on it to do mine just so i never do that ;x
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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^ w3rd. you can overtighten your lugnuts, but you gotta be a real "musle man". with the right tools you dont have to worry. use an eletric impact and let it max for a couple seconds. really, its not that big of a deal when using good tools.

or if youre tightening lug nuts with a torque wrench, just use standard specs. its kind of a simple theory..
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is that for softer material or what? or is that just what those manufactures recommend?
To be honest I'm not sure but I've seen a few cars that aftermarket wheels ask for a few more ft lbs.

I've heard a few theories but I'll read up and try to figure it out.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Cross tighten them.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Cross tightening or star pattern should be assumed.. least I hope
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Default Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??

Originally Posted by 90RENOsedan
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.
SLAP! your dumb
Originally Posted by seanbev24
Huh? It's like 80-85 foot pounds.
yeah thats the spec most people go by. Honda does about 100 ft lbs. Gray torque stick
Originally Posted by gator88
and yes it can warp your rotors by over torquing. You heard right
seen it MANY times. it sucks!
Originally Posted by ***$nyper
Yes lugs can be over torqued.
yup. lol if people have rotas then yes, they NEED to me over torqued haha
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by apekd
yup. lol if people have rotas then yes, they NEED to me over torqued haha
over torqued why?

I torque both my SW388s and Slips to the same 85 ft lbs.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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^It was a joke lol I dont like rota's very much. When I was in high school 2 years ago every kid and their moms had rotas. I thought the 17's and 18's where annoying till this stage. lol
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Default Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??

Oh.

I had hoped you'd be able to solve the mystery of why some aftermarket wheels request a different torquing.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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Oh.

I had hoped you'd be able to solve the mystery of why some aftermarket wheels request a different torquing.
well the torque value depends on the stud and nuts strength mainly. but when the wheel is a different material (IE Aluminum) it tends to need less as when the rotor heats up the heat passes into the wheel. heat will soften the rim meaning you can actually warp the wheel if the studs are too tight. I know there is more info on this than my $.02 worth
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Default Re: How tight to tighten lug nuts on wheels??

That's what I assumed but a few cars I've had the aftermarket rims made sure to note using MORE ft lbs then OEM.

That's what I'm rather perplexed about.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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hmmm...i never really see MORE than OEM. maybe its so the weakling thiefs out there cant steal the rims?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by apekd
hmmm...i never really see MORE than OEM. maybe its so the weakling thiefs out there cant steal the rims?
LMFAO
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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lol

I know that Blox extended studs need less from what I remember. Not sure if its just cause they are POS studs and break fast, or something else
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Originally Posted by 90RENOsedan
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.
tighten till it bottoms out then 4-6 hits after that
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 90RENOsedan
you heard wrong. tighten them til you can't tighten them anymore by hand. if you're using air, tighten them til the gun stops.
wow i would never let you work on my car the spec is 80ftlb ii hope you never use a 500ftlb gun

some manufactures recommend cheking the tourque after 20 miles on aluminom wheels
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