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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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Default 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

I recently replaced my Front brakes on my 4x114 setup. I know many people in the past never had confirmation on what would work since we all know that we can't just buy replacement rotors for this setup until recently with the fastbrakes kit. This has been talked about on honda-tech and many other forums in the past and still people wanted full confirmation of what would work.

I met up with Brake Expert and got a better insight on what I would need and prepared to document everything to help out fellow 4x114 ( 96 spec ITR setups).

parts used

US 2000 ITR calipers w/ 23T brackets
92-95 Prelude Vtec rotors 11"
factory ITR pads
7/16" x 1/16" hardened washer

I took as detailed pics as I could of removal and installation of these front brakes...

1.First jack the car up and remove the wheels


2.Here is the stock setup. Basically a GSR rotor( 10.3" ) and caliper.


3.Remove the two 12mm bolts that hold on the caliper to the caliper bracket. Place the caliper to the side for now.




4.Remove the two 17mm bolts that hold the caliper bracket to the knuckle.


5. Next take the two set screws out of the rotor, usually WD40,a phillips head screwdriver and hammer work.


6.You will need to cut the factory heat shield depending on which car you 4x114 setup is on. I had to trim mine because of the bigger caliper bracket.




7.Here is a side by side view of the old caliper bracket v. new, and 10" rotor/ 11" rotor.
new caliper bracket on your left


New rotor v. old



8.Now that everything is off you can start to reassemble. First put the new rotor on with the old or new setscrews to hold it in place. Then put the new 23T caliper bracket on using the Hardened 7/16" washers that are 1/16" thick. Make sure that the hardened washer/ shim goes between the bracket and knuckle. Bolt this bracket down using your old bolts that you took out before. Also grease up the caliper sides. This shim spaces the bracket evenly with the rotor.






9.Put the new Brake pads and caliper on and bolt down the caliper using a 14mm socket. In the meantime you can swap the brake hose that is bolted to the old caliper and attach it to the new caliper using new crush washers or your old ones depending on how old and badly crushed they are. I used my existing ones.




10.Make sure you bleed the brakes properly. I know you can use a 15/16 master cylinder as well as a 1" type R MC, any less I would upgrade.

You are now finished and I know the factory 96 spec ITR 15" wheels will work over this setup but a little bit of caliper bracket and caliper will need to be shaved off. I will take pics of my factory ITR wheels on there to show what needs to be shaved off for these wheels to fit asap. I currently am using my 16" mugen mf8's and have no problems. This upgrade makes it easier to replace rotors when need be and also you go from 10" brakes to 11" brakes and better stopping power.

My clearance on my mugen's





thanks again to Brake Expert, the old H-T, and Adam for letting me use his garage.

A departing pic


Last edited by Stinkycheezmonky; Sep 9, 2009 at 03:49 AM. Reason: Reference to the other HT.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 12:04 AM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

Nice write-up. This is a well-known upgrade for 96 spec brakes, maybe not here but definitely overseas.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 03:59 AM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

Nice write-up, and great pics

Of course, at the end of the day you're still stuck with the poor 4x114.3 wheel selection... But hey, whatever floats your boat!
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:37 AM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

Originally Posted by Stinkycheezmonky
Nice write-up, and great pics
x2 Good work!
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

Hey thanks for that info, that helps a lot. Random (probably stupid) question though. Is the 4x114 lug pattern the same as the 90-93 accords?
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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^yes it is.

question, so with aftermarket rims you can use the washers but if you use the stock jdm ITR wheels you need the caliper bracket to be grinded down?
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Great writeup! I wish I had a garage that size!
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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great write up.. im gonna do this as soon as i cook my pads and rotors on the track..


and who ever was saying there isnt a great wheel choice in 4x114 must of not seen what kind of wheels they have in japan..
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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agreed nice write up
and nice CW R thats in the pic i like
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

US 2000 ITR calipers w/ 23T brackets are the brackets stock on those calipers?
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

some1 please answer ^ question......

im plannin to do replace my brakes over the winter and i need to if the 23T caliper bracket came off a USDM 00 R... and also how many of the 7/16" x 1/16" hardened washers do i need???

please and thank you
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

Originally Posted by KnightX
some1 please answer ^ question......

im plannin to do replace my brakes over the winter and i need to if the 23T caliper bracket came off a USDM 00 R... and also how many of the 7/16" x 1/16" hardened washers do i need???

please and thank you
you will need 2 for each side, which means you need 4 total.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

Would this be the same concept if you had 4x100 (Just using 11" 4x100 rotors)
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Default Re: 4x114 (96specR) Front brake info

Originally Posted by EM1 Loi
you will need 2 for each side, which means you need 4 total.
Thank you! i thought i would need 4 in total but just wanna make sure
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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nice write-up teg97
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