1st Gen B16A in 98 Civic EX Coupe???Need some help guys!!!!
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Can anyone tell me everything that I will need for this swap. Mounts,ECU,Harnesses,brackets, the works. Tell me everything I need because
that is an OBD-0 engine and I have OBD-2. Getting ready to purchase next week and I want to make sure everything is in order. Help me out you guys!!!!
that is an OBD-0 engine and I have OBD-2. Getting ready to purchase next week and I want to make sure everything is in order. Help me out you guys!!!!
First, do you have a B-series hydro tranny or do you have the cable tranny with that first gen?...if you have the cable, we have a mount kit to use it.
If you have a hydro tranny you can use the bracket off the top of your ex tranny.
You need a 99-00 Si rear tranny bracket and the cast bracket that goes into the block on the timing belt side needs to be 99-00 Si too. You can get them new from Honda or try to see if anyone has them chillin in there garage for you. For AC you will need a 94-95 Del Sol VTEC AC bracket, it has P54 cast into it. You can use the injectors from your EX. You will need an OBD2 DOHC VTEC distributor (ie:..99-00 Si /96-01 GSR/ 97,98,00,01 ITR). You need and oil pump from the same car too for the CFS. You can get around changing the oil pump buy getting a JDM ITR ECU (they dont look for CFS) or get a OBD2 - OBD1 jumper harness and run a chipped P28 or a P30 ECU (again, no CFS). For shift linkage get 99-00 Si new from the dealer. We do stock that linkage if you want it from us.
...anyone else please jump in here if I left anything out.....
If you have a hydro tranny you can use the bracket off the top of your ex tranny.
You need a 99-00 Si rear tranny bracket and the cast bracket that goes into the block on the timing belt side needs to be 99-00 Si too. You can get them new from Honda or try to see if anyone has them chillin in there garage for you. For AC you will need a 94-95 Del Sol VTEC AC bracket, it has P54 cast into it. You can use the injectors from your EX. You will need an OBD2 DOHC VTEC distributor (ie:..99-00 Si /96-01 GSR/ 97,98,00,01 ITR). You need and oil pump from the same car too for the CFS. You can get around changing the oil pump buy getting a JDM ITR ECU (they dont look for CFS) or get a OBD2 - OBD1 jumper harness and run a chipped P28 or a P30 ECU (again, no CFS). For shift linkage get 99-00 Si new from the dealer. We do stock that linkage if you want it from us.
...anyone else please jump in here if I left anything out.....
I think you should try to find an obd2 motor. I know there hard to find and all and more expensive, but you'll probably spend just as much money buying the stuff you need to make the 1st gen. b16 work. I know cuz i did it! Don't get me wrong, the HAsport stuff works good, but buying the right motor will simplify things a lot.
Place Racing also makes things that you may need for that swap like custom shift linkages, axles ect. I'd get as much as you can from HAsport though. I like their stuff better.
Place Racing also makes things that you may need for that swap like custom shift linkages, axles ect. I'd get as much as you can from HAsport though. I like their stuff better.
whoa....he does not need to buy anything custom for this swap at all. unless he is using a cable tranny. then we make a kit to put that tranny in....everything you need for that swap is stock honda stuff, including the axles and shift linkage. when i said you could buy the shift linkage from us i mean we stock OEM 99 Si linkage from honda. i know youre not getting on my post i just want to make it clear that you dont NEED to buy anything from us.....now if you called place and didnt really know what you were doing they might say you NEED to buy all this custom stuff, but we're not like that
we're here to help....
on that note i did leave the axle info out of my above post...depending on the half shaft you get you will either need 94+ integra 99 Si axles or you will need 90-93 integra axles. if you use a hydro tranny and i 1st gen b16 half shaft, you need to use a 90-93 integra axle on the driver side and tranny seal(where the half shaft goes in the tranny) if you have a new 94+ teg half shaft the hydro seal thats in it will work. that is an important thing to know cause if you use the 1st gen shaft with the 94+ seal, you will have a tranny leak.....email me if you would like hasport_bp@hotmail.com
we're here to help....on that note i did leave the axle info out of my above post...depending on the half shaft you get you will either need 94+ integra 99 Si axles or you will need 90-93 integra axles. if you use a hydro tranny and i 1st gen b16 half shaft, you need to use a 90-93 integra axle on the driver side and tranny seal(where the half shaft goes in the tranny) if you have a new 94+ teg half shaft the hydro seal thats in it will work. that is an important thing to know cause if you use the 1st gen shaft with the 94+ seal, you will have a tranny leak.....email me if you would like hasport_bp@hotmail.com
dont even bother with the first gen b16a, first of all its cable tranny, its OBD0 and its old. Go with the 2nd gen b16a(5 series), it'll cost a little bit more but it'll be less headache and less time consuming. but if i was you i'd go GSR. torque rocks. peace
Get the SiRII B16a and use this guide:
http://www.jspectuning.com/6gen for mounts and chit!
OBDII swap would be easier though.......
http://www.jspectuning.com/6gen for mounts and chit!
OBDII swap would be easier though.......
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im not gettin on your post, just expaining what i went through. I got a question though. I used your kit to put my cable tranny in my 94 civic h/b., but i bought the kit when it only came with the tranny mount and hydro conversion kit. Now you guys sell the drivers side mount and the rear mount with the kit. Is there any way that I can buy just those two mounts by themselves to match the one thats in there already? if i can how much would it be?
yes you can buy them...they are $150 each with lifetime waranty....they are all billet now, so they will look a liitle different than you tranny on but you cant really see that one anyway.
you know what
im not even gonna post my usual speel anymore
dont waste money on a first gen motor
dont ******* be a cheap ***
its gonna bite you in the long run
you will spend as much as a second gen swap
im not even gonna post my usual speel anymore
dont waste money on a first gen motor
dont ******* be a cheap ***
its gonna bite you in the long run
you will spend as much as a second gen swap
If you take your time looking for parts, the b16a first gen will be cheaper. I did it this summer in a 95 civic.
Engine swap 1100
Traded d16 for 2000si tranny
sold d16 tranny for 150
sold cable tranny for 350
sold pwo ecu for 175
Got p28 rechipped for 100
bought engine mounts i needed for 125
bought axles and midshaft from ebay for 180
Cut and welded my old shift linkage to fit.
Total cost 830 dollars
You just have to be very patient and wait for the good deals.
Engine swap 1100
Traded d16 for 2000si tranny
sold d16 tranny for 150
sold cable tranny for 350
sold pwo ecu for 175
Got p28 rechipped for 100
bought engine mounts i needed for 125
bought axles and midshaft from ebay for 180
Cut and welded my old shift linkage to fit.
Total cost 830 dollars
You just have to be very patient and wait for the good deals.
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Good job. My engine is only $450 plus shipping and handling from hondamotorsonline. Once it gets here I will begin to tear it down to send my head
off to get ported and polished and a valve job, along with some USDM or JDM ITR
cams. Then I plan to maybe order some Spoon Pistons for $360. When I'm done building the motor, then I will try and find a pretty strong tranny. It can't be a used tranny either. Then get a clutch and flywheel(ACT of course). Then I will find a strong reliable ECU. Probably something JDM. Then I'll just go from there. Probably some fuel control; Apexi VAFC. When I'm done with everything I will drop the motor and hope for the best.
off to get ported and polished and a valve job, along with some USDM or JDM ITR
cams. Then I plan to maybe order some Spoon Pistons for $360. When I'm done building the motor, then I will try and find a pretty strong tranny. It can't be a used tranny either. Then get a clutch and flywheel(ACT of course). Then I will find a strong reliable ECU. Probably something JDM. Then I'll just go from there. Probably some fuel control; Apexi VAFC. When I'm done with everything I will drop the motor and hope for the best.
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