I was wondering I went to a dealership today and was looking at used S2K's and they had an 06 with like 48k miles on them for about 21k and that seemed a little high to me, and I told him im looking for a 00 AP1 for around 11k and he said that for that price they usually have really high miles and with an S2000 people drive them very hard and because it revs so high it's a bad idea to buy one with higher mileage. Now I thought this was salesperson BS but I was just curious what your opinions on this are, is the S2K's high rev a bad thing? Does it wear on the engine and make it not last as long as say a civic engine?

 

It depends on the previous owner. A newer S2k with 48k doesn't necessarily mean it's in any better of condition. The owner on that could be rev'ing that to redline from every stop light as well. Things that greatly affect the engine's longevity would be: maintenance, how often it was "raced", the driving conditions, and even something as simple as whether the previous owner was good enough about letting the engine properly warming up before they even remotely opened it up.

You have to understand, the engine's redline is set by the manufacture based upon several reasons. The rod-stroke ratio, the powerband, the gearing, the piston speeds at red line, so on, so forth.

People also have the misconception of believing that if an engine has 100k miles on it, it's automatically on it's last leg. Also, you have to ask yourself...if the dealership had an AP1 on the lot as opposed to an AP2, would the salesperson be opposed to talking **** about the AP2 to try and sell you the AP1 instead?

Good luck on your hunt. I just recently acquired my 03 and I'm loving it. I don't trust the used car lot too much, so I'll be doing a full fluid change this Wednesday

 

How much did you pick it up for? how many miles? Any pics?

 

No pics yet. I picked it up for 12.5k out the door. It had 105k on the odometer. Where are you located? The same dealership has a Silver 00 AP1 on sale stickered at 10k. You could probably haggle them down a 1-1.5k, putting it at about 11k out the door...

 

^ That's not really a good price at all. That kinda sucks.

There's plenty of cheaper cars with less miles. My friend just sold his 01 BB with 50k for $10K or something. I know he GAVE it away, but still. There's much better deals out there than 12.5k with 105k miles.

OP: It sounds like sales person B.S. And $21k for a 06 with 48k miles?!! WTF?!! No F'ing way I'd pay that much.

The engine revs high...but as long as it wasn't abused or revved beyond it's limiter, you'll probably be fine. With any high mileage car, there's going to be wear and tear.

Think about the Civic Si or Integra GSR. There's plenty of 200k mile cars out there and those cars rev to about 8.2k. My 99 Si has 135k on it and I still track it. I let my friend autox it and I ran a session at Gingerman with it. I still redline it every day. I drive it pretty hard. If I covered up the odometer, you'd think it had 50k miles on it.

My old 99 GSR with 142k on it once went 130mph and got 30mpg on the same tank of gas.

My S2000 sees the track pretty often. I've had it to around 10-10.5k RPMs by mistake. When I track it, every shift is a 9k RPM shift. The car has only 34k miles...but still. I've had it for 16k miles and ~ 3 years. I only drive it in the spring/summer/early fall. In IL, that means around 4-5 months out of the year. It's seen 12 track days. That means a track day every 1.25 months of actual use (15 months in 3 years). I don't take it "easy" on track days either. The car's absolutely being ripped around the track on every session for all days of the event.

My point is that revving it doesn't really hurt it.

The intended limits of the car won't hurt it. Abuse will. So just carefully look it over when you buy it. If there's something wrong with the car or it's about to let go, it's pretty hard to mask it.

 

Your friend sold it for 10k or so, but the buyer still has to pay licensing fees, title transfers, and those of us living in California love this one...taxes. Our stupid sales tax is close to 10% now.

Going to a private seller, I probably could have gotten a much better deal as well, unfortunately, I didn't intend to have to buy a car, but my car got stolen recently. Long story short, it's typically easier doing a bank-involved car purchase with a stealership :/

There was also an 01 on sale at a dealership with only about 60k on it with a sticker of 10k, but I really didn't want to deal with the plastic rear window on the top.

Again, I agree, the 21k for the 06 is a bit out there. I've seen 06's and 07's with asking prices of around 19k around here.

 

so his friend ended up paying 10k x 8.3% = 10,830 dollars plus other licensing fees. almost 11k. still a good deal for the mileage IMO.

I paid 14k at a dealer for my S with 70k miles with all maitinance done at honda and a hard top. cleeeaaan 03 bb.

 

Honda made the car rev high because they figured it would be a bad thing.

 

hondaklye your from illinois right?

 

Keep it under 3500 rpms, once you get hire it makes a weird noise.

That can cause this..

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-s2000-5/s2000-down-2633909/

 

YES SIR!

 

hondakyle sucks.

 

**** that guy!!!!This B Serious guy always tries to hard park around HondaKyle.

 

i heard he once tried to hardpark 'in' Hondakyle..

 

all of the above is true.

 

I was scared...

 

As long as the car is in good running condition and is taken care of the miles really shouldnt matter. i just picked up my 2nd s2000 an 02 with 170k miles clean title awesome condition exterior/interior wise for 6000. i did all the maintance and its been good so far i drive it everyday.

 

i picked up mine with 128k and the guy before me drove it hard but only out like 600miles on it and it runs strong.i think its ok as long as u dont bounce it off of the rev limiter.

 

I've been known to bounce it off the rev limiter....still seems to run just fine to me. Then again, I personally use the OEM shift light to shift. Ofcourse mine only has 30k on the odo.

 

There's an OE shift light on the 03 S2K's?! o.0

 

??? there's a shift light on all of them.

Watch the cluster. The tach blinks at 9k.

 

I blink at 9,000 also

 

rev to redline all you want, just make sure your oil's good to go before you do and understand that added stress will lead to faster metal fatigue and it will get damaged sooner than it could have been. But my standpoint on that is that it is a honda, and a fairly fast honda at that. So every time I push it to the redline on the backroads, open streets, near schools, near old people homes, I feel like I'm getting my bang for my buck. Babying a damn Honda is pointless, the 1000$ you get in resale value or w/e for having a babied car vs. countless times you could have enjoyed your car.

and furthermore 12.5k out the door for an AP1 over 100k miles as of recently is a not-so-great deal these days. If you noticed the trend, S2000 prices are falling like never before. I've owned 2 S2000's in the past 2 years and they both beat out your deal (and that was when prices of s2k's weren't on the fall.)

01' Silverstone S2k with 94k miles + Clean title- 9400$ (12/22/07)
03' Suzuka S2k with 40k miles, inlinepro 400+whp kit on tein flex coils etc. etc. - less than what you paid. clean title as well (bought it 12/20/08)

 

OP why don't you try to do some searching for info on your own instead of coming on here making bs threads and looking to get spoonfed info.

 

probably because we're s2000 owners and we probably know these sorts of things