hey guys,

took the car in for the 30K service. was told that the valve cover gasket should be replaced along with valve adjustment. dealer recommendation. i asked why this is not mentioned in the manufacturer's schedule. they said that they don't go by that.

what gives?

they also replaced the brake fluid. something the manual says should be replaced at 3 yrs.
as far as valve adjustment the manual says when noisy.

anyone else had these things done on their 30K service?

'07 Si Sedan
Fiji Blue
K&N drop in

 

it shouldn't need anything until 100K

 

Yeah, you got jipped.

 

With dealers it's hit or miss. Some will stop at nothing to sell you **** you don't need, while others actually try to help you out. The whole story of "we don't follow what Honda has outlined for us to do" is total BS. I suggest finding a different dealer or servicing your car yourself.

 

WRONG, stop spreading erroneous info. You don't need a tune up until 100k. 30k service is adjusting valves and you don't usually want to reuse the valve cover gasket if you take it off. You could have had the fuel filter replaced, the trans fluid drained and refilled too and serpentine belt replaced.

Everything you had done is ok, fuhok.

 

Hey Kindkorner,

Told them not to flush the gearbox since I had the 3rd gear fix in the Spring. That was in the menu as well. Not sure about fuel filter with this thing. Is it under the car, in the engine bay or in the tank? I know on my GTis it was under the car. Pretty easy job.

Thanks

 

The dealer took you for a ride...

 

how much to have the serpentine belt replaced i got 47k on my car

 

While 30k is early for a valve adjustment its not uncommon to here those who beat on there SI's to do it early.

 

i wanna know this also, cuz when i smash on it, that damn belt slips like crazy when i shift. it makes a squeak and my car doesnt go anywhere until it catches again.

 

30k services vary from dealer to dealer but are really not worth it in my opinion if you are mechanically inclined in any sense.

most of it is paying just for a more thorough look at the car which is bullshit every car that comes in that i work on at the dealer i look thoroughly at from a oil change to a major service.

our 30k service includes overpriced inspection. oil change, trans fluid exchange, coolant fluid exhange, engine air filter, wiper inserts pretty much thats it.

if u went and just had those done on a ticket instead of saying 30k service its cheaper lol

most of dealerships say oh check ac system and heating (yea only if its really hot or cold out because we blast the heat or ac), adjust drive belt (auto tensioner kills that) check the charging system (no just a battery test),

if anyone needs a serpentine drive belt for a 06 plus civic let me know I have a new one in the bag from the dealer.

bs services from our dealer are fuel system service ( seafoam type) brake fluid exhange (dont use honda fluid and usually most techs dont exchange it but clean out the brake resevoir and put new fluid in)

dealers have their ups and down just like any other shop in the world

but like i said anyone need a new serpentine belt for their 06+ civic????

 

i gotta get my valves adjusted. they're noisy. luckily i have a friend who knows how. or can show me.

 

You should only go by your maintenance minder system. That's what it's there for. Your owner's manual should tell you what the numbers and letters mean. And it is true that Honda recommends brake fluid replacement every 3 years no matter how many miles you put on your vehicle. Valves only need to be adjusted when they are noisy.

 

The took advantage of you.

 

By valve adjustment....is that the "gargling" type sound I sometimes hear at startup for a brief moment?

 

my dealership usually doesnt do val. adj. unti about 90K or so..30k for me is alittle early for that

 

actually, i think you are the one spreading erroneous info. show me where Honda says that an Si should have the valves adjusted anywhere remotely near 30k. also, show me where it mentions the fuel filter anywhere close to 30k...same for 'trans fluid' and belt. if i had to bet, i'd bet the valve adjustment/inspection would be somewhere after 100k.

honda made it a point several years ago to run with 100k service intervals for their vehicles. honda service was not happy because it looked like it was going to make things harder for their departments. alot of dealerships instituted interesting ways to quell that fear, and one of the ways was to take people for rides with unnecessary services loosely based on older vehicles service intervals.

while there are inspections scattered throughout the various points in the 100k, very little needs to actually be replaced other than the basics (air filter/cabin filter, oil and filter, brakes, tires...possibly plugs and brake fluid)

the bottom line is just follow the maintenance minder. it, unlike the financial books at the dealership service division, was designed by honda engineers. it's not there for fun.

 

I mean no disrespect, dude but what is it you do for a living and how long have you been a certified Honda technician?

Valves don't have to be noisy to be out of adjustment and just how does a fuel filter last 100,000 miles? And transmission fluid just lasts forever, it's invincible super fluid that people should use for their engines too. Belts can go anywhere between 30-60k miles, the idea is to catch things BEFORE they become an issue.

I never expected to hear anything like that out of you, man.

Edit: Just FYi the B3 maintenance minder came on my brother's Si came on at 37,000 and my mother in laws CR-V at 34,000.

 

i think its when the ticking its louder than usual.

 

anything like what out of me? show me where honda says anything like what you said before...the problem is, you can't, because it's not factual. it is pure conjecture based on nothing. for instance...regarding valve adjustment...honda says specifically in the manual "Adjust the valves during services A, B, 1, 2, or 3 only if they are noisy"

anyway, follow the maintenance minder, that is that. anything more is excess, anything less is neglect. the minder incorporates preventive maintenance as well since it's based on subset 'tiers' that include inspection. it's not some dumb flawed system, it's something that honda engineers developed for a reason and it works.

and i find it very curious that b3 showed up on the Si. there is absolutely no reason at 37k why honda MTF would need to be changed unless he has some extremely unusual driving habits. but again, if the minder said it, it's time.

 

No that ticking sound is normal and something completely different. I'm talking about something else. Something I also hear ALOT in some of our customers' Mazda CX-7s and Speed 3s.

 

i've been under the impression the mazdas make some interesting sounds due to the direct injection. there is a high pressure cam driven fuel pump right at the top of the engine, on the driver's side. those mazdas run fuel pressures at startup/idle in the 700psi range!

 

So you're familiar with it then? It just doesn't sound normal. It's WAY too loud on some of these cars and it happens on both cold and warm startups on some of them.

What I hear from my car sounds similar....but nowhere near as loud...and only happens on cold startups and very light revs to about 1.5K rpms. Anything above that and the noise goes away.

 

i hate maintenance. maybe i shouldnt beat on my car the way i do.......

 

what/where exactly is this serpentine belt that you speak of? i've noticed a squeak from the engine bay once in a while when i shift fast at redline .