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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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i have a 92 hb that i just upgraded to integra spindles,rotors, calipers, after everything is done i go to bleed them it goes normal i start the car pull out then hit the brakes and pedal went all the way down i thought i had the leak but nope, none so i bleed it some more and nothing then bleed some more still nothing. so i thought it was my booster since the pedal goes down to the floor then it real hard to bring back out for asec or two then it goes back up.any ideas, thanks in advance
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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I think the master cylinder may be bad.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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i hope it just that since i get anew one tomorrow. ill let you guys knoe tomorrow.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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Did you bench bleed it the MC?
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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yup, i just woke up, about to go get the new one and ill let you guys whats happends in a bit.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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remember to bench-bleed it first, and then bleed the lines.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunmetal_B20_Hatch
remember to bench-bleed it first, and then bleed the lines.
x2 getting the new mc will fix the problem if anything.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Pretty sure you need the integra master too since it pushes more fluid then your stock master.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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yes i bought the integra one since the single cam is mounted diffrent. iafter waiting a hour for the part to come from the warehouse i bench bleed put in on put the pin on the pedal put one line on then go do the other one and its a diffrent size a size bigger i belive which suck cause i can either run a new line with right size fitting but i would have to drop my moster and move foward as much as i can sice the manifold is about half a inch from the fire wall(skunk2 mani on a h22 in aeg real tight fit.) or i was thinking of cutting it outting the right size fitting then re falring it and see how it goes. what do you guys think? for got to mention that i swapped out the boostr to integra which was a bitch which lead to getting the integra mc which lead to firgure how to put the line on
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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ok so i go the right mc i needed the non abs one i bench bleed it i installed it then bleed all the lines and what i did notice was that the rear driver side and front passenger side have almost no pressure coming out the other two have real strong pressure
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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i would run a dc integra booster and master.. the gsr master is 1inch..

take the teg MC to the auto parts store, and ask them for the brake fitting to fit the big side.. then cut off the old fitting and reflare it.. done..
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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i was gonna do that but i just ran the non abs one and eveything fits now my problem is that i have no brake pressure on the rear driver side or fron pass side. brake pedal to the floor rear driver side still spins i have no idea what else to try someone. imma go watch the game before i do something stupid oit of fustration
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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i was gonna do that but i just ran the non abs one and eveything fits now my problem is that i have no brake pressure on the rear driver side or fron pass side. brake pedal to the floor rear driver side still spins i have no idea what else to try someone. imma go watch the game before i do something stupid oit of fustration
Probably still a bit of air in the lines...


Keep bleeding
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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ill go bleed it some more after the game. i took for it a spin around the block its scary when i try stop
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Check ur calipers and make sure you have the L on the left side (driver side) and R on the right side (passenger side). Than you may wanna check to see if you calipers are not locking up (seized). Also check your 40/40 proportion valve make sure it works. I had the same problem with my GSR swap. When I bleed it the driver front and passenger rear had good fluid coming out. But the passenger front and driver rear only had lil coming out (if you pump than hold). I replaced everything new, master from autozone like 75.00 booster from another junk yard 50.00 new calipers 150.00 both from pepboys (special order part). My calipers locked on me and i burnt out the clutch tryna get it home lol. That cost me another 400 for clutch and fly wheel. So all in all if you dont want this to happen to u, shoulda just left that **** alone!! BUT make sure u check ur calipers and proportional valve. Good luck brah.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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mine aint locked up each one spins freely but only the front driver and rear passenger are stoping. i didnt know you could get the calipers mixed up,ill double check that. so, what was your problem?
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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well just finished bleeding it some more still the same. im going to go borrow one of teh vaum bleeders that go to the air comp. hopefully this fixes it. still open to ideas
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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okay so i did have the calipers on the wrong side swapped them over still same crap ive bleed them for a while went through 2 big bottles and three little one i really dont think i have air in the lines i took the passenger side caliper off and press the brakes and it moved about 1/4in maybe less thats it. so im stuck on what to do next.

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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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so i bleed it some more andstill nothing, im bout to drop my motor and replace all the lines **** it i hope this works
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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this might be stupid...but you didnt happen to run low on brake fluid while trying to bleed the brakes did you?
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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nope i had my friend keep a eye on it anf fill it up
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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ok, so after bleed it it some more then dropping the motor to swap out the valve on the firewall its the same thing what i did notice is that i pump it then break the line closest to the booster and good pressure comes out, pump it again and break the next line(which goes to the front pass and rear driver) and very little pressure so im thinking its the mc i got a defective one, i think
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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still need help with this issue i blew air through all the hose to make sure they are clean got a new mc and a new p-valve still same issue
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